From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bruce Korb Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: RFD: drop the GH interface. Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:04:57 -0700 Organization: FSF Message-ID: <48D26E19.5000301@gnu.org> References: <87wshgl5sd.fsf@gnu.org> <871vzhho7c.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: bkorb@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1221750340 2462 80.91.229.12 (18 Sep 2008 15:05:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:05:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 18 17:06:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KgL5B-0007PS-Rj for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:06:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34735 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KgL4A-0003Ru-Fz for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:05:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KgL44-0003Re-Jg for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:05:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KgL42-0003RS-4D for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:05:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58654 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KgL41-0003RP-UZ for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:05:01 -0400 Original-Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.178]:8495) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KgL41-0005Gz-Be for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:05:01 -0400 Original-Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m34so2380114wag.10 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:04:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :organization:user-agent:mime-version:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=/R6CjvSEH0STaOWfyGnScnY42vI0Oj4+KmXCkcNwA4g=; b=m5BOF2VkPypKVZsB6iJo44WK+gFiJWwqJbiiJctkUTiEjdoUy6CQdPz7RLXDYzoHi4 xdCpY+8a+nOQgTpRQOxxqgx+ZZ3OH3xIr93UeimWjN6AXPwGFDvpcjxCsTW9YI3roewn z/KuOtr+7oILao6pNCudbIbpGuBf1JECLlH5I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:organization:user-agent:mime-version :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=F/eHJTeWPv5KcYOAj9E9fAhoOek3ZvFsMT4nBdCDxve0V0xTwStx01ynMM0ow3olCg 09j0vZWX4k1ckxR5y8RJ79ZUYfK603jmoma5AEZmPTgUpCq/bdA1r1RaY0bWLH1Q3Nlx IJjkroFn5gNTDYSMdDS33uhWp9TLH4aZXSUGU= Original-Received: by 10.114.131.9 with SMTP id e9mr3870527wad.194.1221750299929; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ?192.168.1.101? ( [75.0.183.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m26sm1239326pof.1.2008.09.18.08.04.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:04:59 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20071114) In-Reply-To: <871vzhho7c.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:7723 Archived-At: Ludovic Courte`s wrote: > Hi, > > Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > >> Do we have a consensus? > > Yes, fine by me, but no rush. ;-) From a Guile-user and not developer perspective, the sequence needs to be: 1. the most retrograde platform must have all the GH capabilities in the SCM interfaces for their releases. It seems to take quite a few years for BSD to get around to building newer versions. 2. Once that happens, a couple of years must pass 3. I finally get around to removing GH stuff from my code (is there a guide?) 4. a couple more years pass 5. now it's okay by me for released code to not have GH. I think we're to step 3 now, but I need to check the Guile version distributed with net/open/free BSD. Last I looked (~4 or 5 years ago...), it was either 1.4.x or, perhaps, 1.6.x. It was many years behind. In any case, I would suggest checking with your "customers" and "redistributors" instead of this list. IMHO, anyway. Regards, Bruce