From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Arne Babenhauserheide Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel,gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Request for feedback on SRFI-126 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 22:18:04 +0200 Message-ID: <4816667.WGBHnKbjFh@fluss> References: <87zj08t5w1.fsf@T420.taylan> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4339816.athQhKKbFC"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443647382 7050 80.91.229.3 (30 Sep 2015 21:09:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 21:09:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel To: guile-user@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 30 23:09:33 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhOd0-0005yA-SR for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 23:09:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33239 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhOd0-0008CC-9H for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 17:09:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59993) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zh1Na-0008Gv-V7 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 16:20:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zh1NZ-0001Sq-1O for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 16:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:57785) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zh1NT-0001RR-Tl; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 16:19:56 -0400 Original-Received: from fluss.localnet ([85.212.116.191]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LrarZ-1afZ8p1jY5-013L7L; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 22:19:54 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/4.14.8 (Linux/3.14.14-gentoo; KDE/4.14.8; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:jjj1AfhvTWzhRp5+HSpJzja5+tfBDIkxQrJ7vtFaoPqTnjnq0qV bTqLGTaZL+hwPHatGEuijkqhJHyrQzkSnsCcyIWjn7QESzZE05QQAOzeWCDtT7oFuDho3Hd +HtyDEcicBbrQyVa5/cOwhajANSdlUrFCBmGGFk9ZNrct89NT5BvumV1cLngDge7K7srPzt SL3L/W6OkNGWCTomJd6WQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:1TmI0W10atA=:SNWKOrwbAUhMbwlcuy/Mbc fAeyQEneox1I6KfNszuXZar8VgrF/5jDV2U3UZ/6u3WO0z8cUr9oKf6Wf3F5YwcbIU2nsCHAT xPVjvcFXpYsWa//I/kiL7dvDQD3x+bkUhxTI4y5UrYEMcY3iI6m+rB8bnzWT97AvZ7AlVrTlB a3H5jDsbNfO/AXKFq4FPfvNAF7i9gYBXrL99fHUKNYfcJ5aifmOrKUKnYjh/QYBzDZeAoFtSz hbG1CTBVtdAXZFpz09vC8pKr1trZ6htBtXNI79ccohwNbHiZbh9aAOTAnV0gWpOuTZoATcDfY cSRDLie9gp0sWBnirf9wDKcT+4xRjC0KEv88nLKbX9atUCt1p/gx2PTHEER/5yb6rE+4VQWBm qFlLEoSsw0cZAHvV4cwYETuqyfleuvEnhZJlaTbYmMkmsRPf7esMuPPBoNvkBKVvMg2Oucrrw 2dokqUmVFBsGhu+B7CyVEC8bYg2zU81s2ieNqjqzBN5mu+Ro6Bgz0QALgDOGaLR6bT/x5Xhez /NgJD3QQwFiM0R42Q/dO+YviGzSaH248B8cuZ6tbzsWJK2DJfKIaebXN/9Ns9jtkp1OYQVcyr QhHG65TYsz40jHejGYkqK4iAsumW966fgTtnjopXNsgU3Jr66mRYG3fs5mP4UNIZwZ/t0ZDdt bI15nLILBEqzp1rqJD8nzs9nbgk5Vuht3cN7X28Evw11JbLk+Y56WBp5KlRSIH1qZG5WO4BVI c4Sa8SboNzPNGVLq X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.12 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:17874 gmane.lisp.guile.user:12056 Archived-At: --nextPart4339816.athQhKKbFC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Am Sonntag, 27. September 2015, 21:00:46 schrieb Panicz Maciej Godek: > You wrote there, among others, that "with a little more work, standar= d > Scheme might actually become a language essentially as usable as Pyth= on and > the like". >=20 > If you're looking for a language that is "as usable as Python", then = I'd > recommend trying out Python, which is very good at what it does. >=20 > Maybe I'm reading your point wrong, but I don't think that competing = with > Python or chasing Python or trying to mimic Python would be anything = but a > waste of time Saying that it should be =E2=80=9Cas usable as Python=E2=80=9D isn=E2=80= =99t the same as saying that it should chase Python or mimic Python. You can make furniture from wood or steel, but if you only have off-the-shelf chairs and tables of wood, no one is going to open a restaurant with a kitchen made of steel. Or built a skyscraper, for that matter. Making Scheme as usable as Python requires finding an elegance which fits Scheme and allows creating applications at least as easily as with Python =E2=80=94 but not necessarily in the same style. Best wishes, Arne --nextPart4339816.athQhKKbFC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iJwEAAEIAAYFAlYK8f0ACgkQ3M8NswvBBUiaaAP/eWAlnE46grXQXXb9aIN2TlYY wjbQxkXTqIxjq8xZ1qjHSIXTWcg5pf5wLHjo3Rz+LaONC7LxQqFX4JHkguHWBD0+ J2lLAH3IDtQGSPeaNZEQ8T0IpRMMOROIpDzgFIv4loceHXtZ5tJqrEXyG1GH/iYN LTllORV7cKAPWJ292D0= =tZfd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4339816.athQhKKbFC--