From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lassi Kortela Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Name of the standard library Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 19:27:13 +0300 Message-ID: <478d00f0-ed93-41ce-b94a-86c0a433528f@lassi.io> References: <20240629002027.13853-1-richard@freakingpenguin.com> <87h6co21qv.fsf@laura> <87r0bsxpoe.fsf@web.de> <4d9d9c2e-0830-4267-b8e5-1a50cb815508@msavoritias.me> <87a5ifyd0g.fsf@web.de> <20240719104617.pLmG2C00D4SnA1G01LmG1n@andre.telenet-ops.be> <87wmlgkyix.fsf@web.de> <15398dda-cb3e-4195-b2f8-263a59a73c68@lassi.io> <20240720180131.ps1X2C0032eE65L06s1Xj4@michel.telenet-ops.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18036"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cc: Greg Troxel , MSavoritias , "guile-devel@gnu.org" To: Maxime Devos , "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" , Attila Lendvai Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 20 18:27:40 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sVCvr-0004VN-Rw for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 18:27:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sVCvZ-00027t-NG; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:27:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sVCvY-00027Z-Oo for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:27:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-108-mta189.mxroute.com ([136.175.108.189]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sVCvX-0003YM-A0 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:27:20 -0400 Original-Received: from filter006.mxroute.com ([136.175.111.3] filter006.mxroute.com) (Authenticated sender: mN4UYu2MZsgR) by mail-108-mta189.mxroute.com (ZoneMTA) with ESMTPSA id 190d0f814b400017a3.001 for (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384); Sat, 20 Jul 2024 16:27:17 +0000 X-Zone-Loop: 4791a88abf2cf495501ecb5f0af739ecf1410d952eec X-Originating-IP: [136.175.111.3] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lassi.io; s=x; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:From:References:Cc: To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=H1VNqwQP0SSTq4C8dQQ06KJxr/kLYZ6/SR9VvVgDFeo=; b=DW4YamSUPE3WUzvIPMqCatNSVi SzHsggeHNhjC2hS+hjRgPLlxVh4CUFb0wn9xT3ixs/NyFZQL+bqsJw0ymJ0dIE+PqEN29aZ2u4reo ktayzLz8O44I4hwgph1NxB6h3vshM+K9Xgx/t1ZGhUyUUTraKvMeiCn15krIXLh/4tcCiR8R7yu2h J9RapYAQEFxYtVfUacE+ZV/Jyl4+2lf37eq4gw6afam6P1v/vxa2rHCHrtjLXYhGBYTk+mhcqNeQ+ lBRVHfInaVLjdPOIuO5SR/PVUAq1dvm4zDdlWOTFzbWFjpI67/gN54/knR/qe4nkjpS5HSJ95i8WW arfFl6yA==; Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <20240720180131.ps1X2C0032eE65L06s1Xj4@michel.telenet-ops.be> X-Authenticated-Id: lassi@lassi.io Received-SPF: pass client-ip=136.175.108.189; envelope-from=lassi@lassi.io; helo=mail-108-mta189.mxroute.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:22605 Archived-At: > Why wouldn’t this smart newbie learn more? Many things are competing for his time. > I mean, in an alternate > universe, the CIPM and or their predecessors might have liked soccer > (cf. Ice-9) very much and called the unit of mass the ‘football’ instead > of the ‘(kilo)gram’. In that universe, “the unit of mass is called > footballs” would be a perfectly reasonable sentence (not a non-sequitur) > that doesn’t prevent (SI) measurement newbies from learning more about > the other SI units – the units don’t need to share a name with SI. While reality is indeed a fiction, it is a shared fiction. That's why the list type is "list", the unit of mass is "kilogram", etc. Alternate universes are a distinct hobby. In programming, that hobby is represented by esoteric languages.