From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Amirouche Boubekki Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: New logo and website design proposal Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:32:32 +0200 Message-ID: <46c812a04f6d49b7ed851689abd23fcb@hypermove.net> References: <12940f8a9be1fde49c9e9700480893a3@openmailbox.org> <87fv2fbbav.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87h9mny097.fsf@gnu.org> <9f498ab696d5677675528a84527e4e5e@openmailbox.org> <6dc9f38ccdf1f6be79c45d55ad034a65@openmailbox.org> <87io6ccj5u.fsf@gnu.org> <4c4d2e0e9237e789a0aabb32d048d6b4@openmailbox.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444681982 10591 80.91.229.3 (12 Oct 2015 20:33:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 20:33:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ludo@gnu.org, guile-devel-bounces+amirouche+dev=hypermove.net@gnu.org, guile-devel To: =?UTF-8?Q?Luis_Felipe_L=C3=B3pez_Acevedo?= Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 12 22:32:51 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zljm5-0000Hr-6H for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:32:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58678 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zljm4-0001ST-Hg for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:32:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35823) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zljlz-0001SO-G3 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:32:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zljly-0003Qb-2c for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:32:43 -0400 Original-Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:c:538::195]:46386) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zljls-0003P2-6c; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:32:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mfilter13-d.gandi.net (mfilter13-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.141]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC43A80C0; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:32:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter13-d.gandi.net Original-Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.195]) by mfilter13-d.gandi.net (mfilter13-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GY9QVfPCWup5; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:32:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 10.58.1.149 Original-Received: from webmail.gandi.net (unknown [10.58.1.149]) (Authenticated sender: amirouche@hypermove.net) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C1E6EA80B4; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:32:32 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <4c4d2e0e9237e789a0aabb32d048d6b4@openmailbox.org> X-Sender: amirouche@hypermove.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4b98:c:538::195 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:17919 Archived-At: Le 2015-10-12 20:15, Luis Felipe López Acevedo a écrit : > On 2015-10-12 08:26, ludo@gnu.org wrote: >> Aleix Conchillo Flaqué skribis: >> >>> I have a suggestion: would it be possible to show only one code >>> sample in >>> the Code examples section? The code sample would periodically switch >>> to a >>> new one smoothly and also the user should be able to jump from sample >>> to >>> sample by clicking some arrows. Something like racket-lang (but much >>> nicer >>> with your design!). Also, it would save some space. The code could be >>> on >>> the left and the explanation on the right side with the title on top >>> of the >>> explanation. >> >> I agree that it would be nice, if possible. >> >> OTOH the current web site has the advantage of being JavaScript-free. >> >> WDYT, Felipe? >> > > I'm fine with Aleix suggestion. And it can be done so that the > examples are shown in a descent way without the effects for people who > don't use JavaScript. But I'd pass on the implementation because I > don't like much using JavaScript :) I can do it, if nobody shims in... When I am finished with the tutorial. Any comment is welcome. First I tried to follow hylang tutorial [0], but I found it too short. I really like clojure koans [1], but there is not guilescript. I did not do much research, in particular there might be interesting stuff to use in "how to design programs" [2]. So I settled on 4 parts tutorial split into sections, but not deeper, where the first paragraph introduce a concept and the second paragraph apply the concept in the general context of guilers doing a hackfest. I did not talk about macros, I will think about a way to spread the different macros in all the parts. Here is the plan: # Learn Scheme Guile ## Getting started [3] The main illustration is a breakfast box. - call procedure - define a variable - how to create list - how to create pairs - how to create scheme dictionary aka. assoc - how to define a procedure - how to to create new list with initial list and a procedure using map ## Foward [4] This continue with breakfast box and explain records with a mini todo list app. - how to define a more complex procedure - how to define variable inside procedures - a short hand to make recursive procedures ie. named `let` - how to define mutable datastructures ie. records ## Beyond [not written yet] I don't know yet which example to use. - goops - values/receive - apply - compose ## Reference A summary of all the syntax and procedure of the tutorial. This should be similar to hylang tutorial. [0] http://docs.hylang.org/en/latest/tutorial.html#basic-intro-to-lisp-for-pythonistas [1] http://clojurescriptkoans.com/#equality/2 [2] http://www.htdp.org/ [3] http://hypermove.net/learn-scheme-guile-basics.html [4] http://hypermove.net/learn-scheme-guile-forward.html