From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Maxime Devos Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel,gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel Subject: Re: Java finalization & smobs? Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 18:00:08 +0000 Message-ID: <3a4298d6fe47881a895f357eb63a13618a3739aa.camel@telenet.be> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6498"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Evolution 3.38.3-1 Cc: lilypond-devel To: Han-Wen Nienhuys , Guile Devel Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 10 19:03:04 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mvkEa-0001WG-Hx for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 19:03:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38418 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvkEY-0003mE-SV for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 13:03:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54842) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvkBp-0000QT-V4 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 13:00:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a02:1800:110:4::f00:18] (port=51564 helo=michel.telenet-ops.be) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvkBo-0005os-1A for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 13:00:13 -0500 Original-Received: from ptr-bvsjgyhxw7psv60dyze.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be ([IPv6:2a02:1811:8c09:9d00:3c5f:2eff:feb0:ba5a]) by michel.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id Ui082600M4UW6Th06i08LS; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 19:00:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telenet.be; s=r21; t=1639159208; bh=ct89s8YTklT8v/dg/b+PngyoRjOJnzMJFbnu3U68YpQ=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=SwqzU5Z4zv0GmyN44cHYaE7vNBCSYuLI0H4SRP1rDhcLj7IpqsLDR5bpHh1twJX2P Fvgf8klvjFoo2RB5pZ0FvvhWLFGeHifyDYg2thRCUpx4ttUacVpz0u2kvXV/evKop/ /F7KBwpA8ZSS1MOiNBOzBD83OWy6dcf5eoDcpsW7kZW08PsU1lCMkRcQ07pklrYiGu IyyVg6tfKGZYh3dJeJq3ijVRtZ67z/XdBN1j0m5ptrXCYqoasIXTYqIeYr4NODZ36T 0Xpf6eyNiyHU0f1r+dela89Oz+/2+xpiAaa8LCeyZJBDrAnkz5Qsou+sLH5+uSNk0Y j4+rJkNhzIleA== X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a02:1800:110:4::f00:18 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a02:1800:110:4::f00:18; envelope-from=maximedevos@telenet.be; helo=michel.telenet-ops.be X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:20994 gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel:78857 Archived-At: Hi, Han-Wen Nienhuys schreef op vr 10-12-2021 om 15:59 [+0100]: > which is consistent with what we see. On the other hand, Guile sets > up > BDWGC with GC_java_finalization=1, which should keep GC dependencies At least in Guile 3, that's done in scm_init_guardians. While that's always called in scm_i_init_guile, maybe Guile 2 only loads the guardian code when it's really needed and doesn't set up Java-style finalisation? Greetings, Maxime (not a guile maintainer).