From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Dale P. Smith" Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: What is Guile? Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:20:31 -0400 Organization: Altus Technologies Corporation Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3F5DD39F.9020806@altustech.com> References: <20030909003319.GC4490@strike.parodycheck.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1063114578 7813 80.91.224.253 (9 Sep 2003 13:36:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 13:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 09 15:36:16 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19wifH-0007TN-00 for ; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 15:36:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 19wieW-00071i-1e for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:35:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 19wiSi-00034F-EQ for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:23:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 19wiSd-00032M-QD for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:23:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [207.170.141.97] (helo=mail.actron.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.22) id 19wiQL-0002G5-8T for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:20:49 -0400 Original-Received: from altustech.com ([192.168.0.216]) by mail.actron.com (8.12.5/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h89G1rua030999; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 12:01:54 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030714 Debian/1.4-2 X-Accept-Language: en Original-To: Jeff Read In-Reply-To: <20030909003319.GC4490@strike.parodycheck.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.7.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:2773 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.devel:2773 Jeff Read wrote: > Converting language X to Scheme, and then interpreting the Scheme is > an interesting academic idea but if technology doesn't work for > people then it doesn't work. Guile isn't the fastest Scheme > interpreter in the world, and adding another layer of parsing and > conversion will simply make things slower. If given the choice > between a slow, subtly incompatible Perl substitute and Perl, most > developers will simply embed Perl. Same goes for Python, or whatever > other language you can think of. There's also the taste aversion to > Scheme to overcome. GIMP appears to be migrating from Scheme to Perl > as its embedded language of choice. Alternatively they will target > JVM or MSIL bytecode. Yes indeed. I think that's why most of the ficus so far has been on improving the Guile interpreter and moving to a compiler or other speedups, like Gnu Lightning. > That's how free software authors standardized on the creeping horror > that is Autoconf (which I'm writing a replacement for (in Guile!)). > :) Hooray! -Dale -- Dale P. Smith dsmith at actron dot com _______________________________________________ Guile-devel mailing list Guile-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-devel