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From: "Julian Graham" <joolean@gmail.com>
To: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: srfi-18 requirements
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:54:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2bc5f8210710101854m1254160ei451026182b87e767@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

Hi guys,

While I was waiting to get my copyright assignment sorted out, I
started trying to figure out what it would take to add SRFI-18
(http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-18/srfi-18.html) support to Guile.  I
think a lot of it can be safely done in Scheme (mostly by mapping the
SRFI's proposed API onto what's already in Guile), but there are a few
things that'd require further modification to the C core.
Specifically:

* Type predicates: thread?, mutex?, and condition-variable?.

* Mutex state: This kind of needs to happen in C, since we need to
hook the actual lock / unlock calls in order to record the state
changes.

* Mutex unlocking outside the owner thread: The existing
implementation claims the result of doing this is undefined, but what
it actually does is mark the mutex unlocked and then throw an
exception.  I don't really think there's a technical reason to
prohibit this, especially since Guile doesn't use the pthreads mutex
implementation directly.

* Mutex lock timeout: Not really sure how to do this -- maybe add a
pthreads condition variable to the definition of fat_mutex.
Supporting this with the existing lock-mutex code would also require a
breaking change to the C API, and I don't know what the conditions are
(if any) under which that's acceptable.

All this kind of presumes that SRFI-18 is something that the Guile
maintainers care about supporting.  Is it?  I'm afraid I don't know
the Guile project's attitude towards implementing SRFIs.


Regards,
Julian


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             reply	other threads:[~2007-10-11  1:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-11  1:54 Julian Graham [this message]
2007-10-12  8:42 ` srfi-18 requirements Ludovic Courtès
2007-10-12 15:31   ` Julian Graham
2007-10-15 22:26     ` Julian Graham
2007-10-15 22:35       ` Stephen Compall
2007-10-15 22:47         ` Julian Graham
2007-10-29 14:37           ` Julian Graham
2007-11-26 18:11             ` Julian Graham
2007-11-27  9:14               ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-11-28 18:23             ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-11-28 18:55               ` Julian Graham
2007-12-01  5:08               ` Julian Graham
2007-12-01 10:21                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-12-02  3:59                   ` Julian Graham
2007-12-04 22:20                     ` Neil Jerram
2007-12-04 22:29                 ` Neil Jerram
2007-12-11  4:20                   ` Julian Graham
2007-12-18  4:30               ` Julian Graham
2007-12-28 18:46                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-12-28 19:08                   ` Julian Graham
2007-12-28 22:35                     ` Neil Jerram
2007-12-30 11:04                 ` Neil Jerram
2007-12-30 20:38                   ` Julian Graham
2008-01-01 19:09                     ` Neil Jerram
2008-01-04  5:01                       ` Julian Graham
2008-01-05  0:30                         ` Neil Jerram
2008-01-06 21:41                           ` Julian Graham
2008-01-08 23:11                             ` Neil Jerram
2008-01-11  2:39                               ` Julian Graham
2008-01-17  1:48                                 ` Neil Jerram
2008-01-19 20:10                                   ` Julian Graham
2008-01-23 22:46                                     ` Neil Jerram
2008-01-23 23:23                                       ` Julian Graham
2008-01-25  1:07                                         ` Neil Jerram
2008-01-25  1:38                                           ` Julian Graham
2008-01-28  2:06                                             ` Julian Graham
2008-02-03  0:30                                               ` Neil Jerram
2008-02-05  6:27                                                 ` Julian Graham
2008-02-07  1:23                                                   ` Neil Jerram
2008-02-07  3:06                                                     ` Julian Graham
2008-02-07 23:26                                                       ` Neil Jerram
2008-02-07 23:33                                                         ` Julian Graham
2008-02-07 23:38                                                     ` Neil Jerram
2008-02-08  0:04                                                       ` Julian Graham
2008-02-11  5:14                                                         ` Julian Graham
2008-02-19 22:48                                                           ` Neil Jerram
2008-02-20  2:10                                                             ` Julian Graham
2008-02-22  0:33                                                               ` Neil Jerram
2008-02-22  4:14                                                                 ` Julian Graham
2008-02-24  9:41                                                                   ` Neil Jerram
2008-02-24 18:17                                                                     ` Julian Graham
2008-02-24 23:29                                                                       ` Neil Jerram
2008-03-01 19:56                                                                         ` Julian Graham
2008-03-08 16:34                                                                           ` Neil Jerram
2008-03-11  4:02                                                                             ` Julian Graham
2008-03-22 18:55                                                                               ` Julian Graham
2008-03-23 23:57                                                                                 ` Neil Jerram
2008-03-24 22:03                                                                               ` Neil Jerram
2008-03-26 15:55                                                                                 ` Julian Graham
2008-04-03  0:18                                                                                   ` Neil Jerram
2008-04-03 19:07                                                                                     ` Julian Graham
2008-04-09 21:29                                                                                       ` Neil Jerram
2008-04-14  0:43                                                                                         ` Julian Graham
2008-05-14  1:23                                                                                           ` Julian Graham
2008-05-14 21:13                                                                                             ` Neil Jerram
2008-05-14 23:11                                                                                           ` Neil Jerram
2008-05-15  5:05                                                                                             ` Julian Graham
2008-05-24 11:42                                                                                               ` Neil Jerram
2008-05-24 13:55                                                                                                 ` Neil Jerram
2008-05-25  2:07                                                                                                 ` Julian Graham
2008-05-31 21:41                                                                                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-06-02  4:48                                                                                                   ` Julian Graham
2008-06-21  5:03                                                                                                     ` Julian Graham
2008-06-30 17:51                                                                                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-01-08 23:41                             ` Neil Jerram

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