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I don=E2=80=99t know. I know that (srfi srfi-N) isn=E2=80=99t portable, but= I don=E2=80=99t know what _is_ portable. I don=E2=80=99t know if =E2=80= =98(import ...)=E2=80=99 is standard either (sure it is as part of =E2=80= =98define-library=E2=80=99, but I didn=E2=80=99t find it on its own in r7rs= .pdf),=20 That said, at least the name is standard, so it would be good to make it av= ailable under this name in Guile: > https://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-97/srfi-97.html: >A SRFI Library can be referenced by number, as in >(srfi :1), (srfi 1) is problematic, since =E2=80=981=E2=80=99 is not an symbol (#{1}# = is, but that=E2=80=99s not what has been choosen in SRFI 97). > (I hope it=E2=80=99s OK that I pick your brain on this) Sure, but on this subject it=E2=80=99s mostly empty. Best regards, --_D67B9CA3-C60D-4E1C-A6D7-3ECB9A22CBB4_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

>I= s (import (srfi :N)) portable in practice?

&nb= sp;

I don=E2=80=99t know. I know that (srfi s= rfi-N) isn=E2=80=99t portable, but I don=E2=80=99t know what _is_ po= rtable.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t know if =E2=80=98(import ...)=E2=80=99 is sta= ndard either (sure it is as part of =E2=80=98define-library=E2=80=99, but I= didn=E2=80=99t find it on its own in r7rs.pdf),

<= o:p> 

That said, at least the name is st= andard, so it would be good to make it available under this name in Guile:<= /p>

 

> http= s://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-97/srfi-97.html:

>A S= RFI Library can be referenced by number, as in

>= (srfi :1),

 

(srfi 1) is problematic, since =E2=80=981=E2=80=99 is not an symbol (#{1}= # is, but that=E2=80=99s not what has been choosen in SRFI 97).

 

> (I hope it=E2= =80=99s OK that I pick your brain on this)

&nb= sp;

Sure, but on this subject it=E2=80=99s mo= stly empty.

 

Best regards,

 

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