From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Berry Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: automake test driver for Guile scheme patch review Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:45:55 -0700 Message-ID: <202311212145.3ALLjtWU009792@freefriends.org> References: <460c1ea1-443e-2daf-ebb6-185bc5aff161@telenet.be> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33745"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org To: maximedevos@telenet.be Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 21 22:46:40 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r5YZr-0008gO-Tp for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:46:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r5YZS-0000yr-7F; Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:46:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r5YZP-0000yG-Fz for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:46:11 -0500 Original-Received: from frenzy.freefriends.org ([198.99.81.75] helo=freefriends.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r5YZD-00055r-94 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:46:11 -0500 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org Original-Received: from freefriends.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 3ALLjtKI009793 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:45:55 -0700 Original-Received: (from apache@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 3ALLjtWU009792; Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:45:55 -0700 In-Reply-To: <460c1ea1-443e-2daf-ebb6-185bc5aff161@telenet.be> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.99.81.75; envelope-from=karl@freefriends.org; helo=freefriends.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:22100 Archived-At: Thanks for the replies. MD> but I don't think it should be in Automake, because then the test driver is harder to update Fine by me :). MD> I don't have any advise on how to get the automake maintainers Sorry, I should have made it clear that I am, effectively, the automake maintainer nowadays. Technically just a contributor, but no one else is applying patches. (Jim Meyering is still making the releases, hopefully with another one out before the end of the year.) TS> Well, it's already a part of Automake as contrib/test-driver.scm: Sounds like I should remove it from there, since that version is stale, as you both noted. It doesn't make sense to me to have a copy of a file that is updated elsewhere. Better for it to be part of wherever it is actually useful instead of putting me and laggard automake development in the middle. Since it's been years since the initial patch+idea, and no one has ever written about it, evidently the goal has been reached outside of Automake. TS> I think that doing nothing other than closing that patch would be a reasonable course of action. :) It's nice to hear the same proposal twice :). Thus it shall be. Freja, if you go forward with your project, evidently the conclusion is that it's better to use the actively-maintained version in Guix. --happy hacking, karl.