From: Chris Vine <vine35792468@gmail.com>
To: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org, guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GNU Guile 2.9.5 Released [beta]
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 23:14:19 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200106231419.7fd821d8a60f0ef400f7ffe1@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eewcs4r0.fsf@pobox.com>
On Mon, 06 Jan 2020 21:34:59 +0100
Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com> wrote:
> On Mon 06 Jan 2020 00:26, Chris Vine <vine35792468@gmail.com> writes:
> > I have a 'try' macro which adopts the approach that if an exception
> > arises, the macro unwinds from the dynamic environment of the code
> > where the exception arose to the dynamic environment of the call to
> > 'try', evaluates the cond clauses in that environment, and then if no
> > cond clause matches re-raises the exception in that environment with
> > 'raise' (rather than 'raise-continuable'). In other words, it does
> > stack unwinding in the same way as exception implementations in almost
> > all other mainstream languages which use exceptions. It would be
> > trivial to implement this with guile-3.0's with-exception-handler with
> > its unwind? argument set to true.
>
> I am not sure this really matches with this use case:
>
> (define (call-with-backtrace thunk)
> (call/ec
> (lambda (ret)
> (with-exception-handler
> (lambda (exn)
> (show-backtrace exn) ;; placeholder
> (ret))
> thunk))))
>
> (define (false-on-file-errors thunk)
> (call/ec
> (lambda (ret)
> (with-exception-handler
> (lambda (exn)
> (if (file-error? exn)
> (ret #f)
> (raise-continuable exn)))
> thunk))))
>
> (define (foo f)
> (call-with-backtrace
> (lambda ()
> (false-on-file-errors f))))
>
>
> If there's an error while invoking `f' that's not a file error, you want
> to have remained in the context of the error so you can show a full
> backtrace. To my mind this is central to the exception handler design.
> So far so good I think.
>
> If I change the implementation of `false-on-file-errors' to be:
>
> (define (false-on-file-errors thunk)
> (guard (exn ((file-error? exn) #f))
> (thunk)))
>
> I think this change should preserve the not-unwinding environment that
> `call-with-backtrace' expects.
Good point. My approach does provide the programmer with less conveyed
stack information after the re-raise of an unhandled exception,
requiring more manual intervention to recover the information when
debugging the exception.
Before you suggested it I had not previously considered your proposal.
It may turn out to be the optimum solution, but I wonder if it would
surprise the programmer to have the cond conditionals evaluated in a
different dynamic environment from the one in which the cond
consequential is evaluated where there is a conditional which is true.
But I am not sure if that is of any importance.
Chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-01-06 23:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-22 15:22 GNU Guile 2.9.5 Released [beta] Andy Wingo
2019-11-22 16:01 ` tomas
2019-12-01 20:41 ` Chris Vine
2020-01-05 20:15 ` Andy Wingo
2020-01-05 23:26 ` Chris Vine
2020-01-06 20:34 ` Andy Wingo
2020-01-06 23:14 ` Chris Vine [this message]
2020-01-07 21:53 ` Andy Wingo
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