* Stepping back up as a co-maintainer @ 2019-10-16 5:41 Mark H Weaver 2019-10-16 13:38 ` sirgazil ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Mark H Weaver @ 2019-10-16 5:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: guile-devel, guile-user Hello all, In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a co-maintainer of GNU Guile. Thanks, Mark ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer 2019-10-16 5:41 Stepping back up as a co-maintainer Mark H Weaver @ 2019-10-16 13:38 ` sirgazil 2019-10-16 18:28 ` Jean Louis 2019-10-17 9:27 ` zx spectrumgomas 2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: sirgazil @ 2019-10-16 13:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mark H Weaver; +Cc: guile-devel, guile-user ---- On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 00:41:00 -0500 Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> wrote ---- > Hello all, > > In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a > co-maintainer of GNU Guile. > > Thanks, > Mark > > \o/ --- https://sirgazil.bitbucket.io/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer 2019-10-16 5:41 Stepping back up as a co-maintainer Mark H Weaver 2019-10-16 13:38 ` sirgazil @ 2019-10-16 18:28 ` Jean Louis 2019-10-17 9:27 ` zx spectrumgomas 2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Jean Louis @ 2019-10-16 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mark H Weaver; +Cc: guile-user, guile-devel * Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> [2019-10-16 01:42]: > Hello all, > > In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a > co-maintainer of GNU Guile. I am welcoming it, thank you for stepping back up. Jean ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer 2019-10-16 5:41 Stepping back up as a co-maintainer Mark H Weaver 2019-10-16 13:38 ` sirgazil 2019-10-16 18:28 ` Jean Louis @ 2019-10-17 9:27 ` zx spectrumgomas 2019-10-17 10:24 ` Mikael Djurfeldt 2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: zx spectrumgomas @ 2019-10-17 9:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mark H Weaver; +Cc: Guile Mailing List, guile-devel I'm a simple Guile user and I hope I'm wrong, but I think Mark H weaver are saying half-thruth here https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00021.html because he has a very close friendship witch Richard Stallmam: "I've known RMS for a long time. For a few years, I spent most of my time two doors down from him at the MIT AI lab. I was the FSF staff sysadmin for a while, and did sysadmin work on RMS's laptop. I was his preferred typist when he shattered his elbow and helped him replace his bandages, etc." http://logs.guix.gnu.org/guile/2014-08-09.log I think the joint statement https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ is the true key factor of his return. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:42 AM Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> wrote: > Hello all, > > In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a > co-maintainer of GNU Guile. > > Thanks, > Mark > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer 2019-10-17 9:27 ` zx spectrumgomas @ 2019-10-17 10:24 ` Mikael Djurfeldt 2019-10-17 10:33 ` tomas 2019-10-17 10:52 ` zx spectrumgomas 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Mikael Djurfeldt @ 2019-10-17 10:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: zx spectrumgomas; +Cc: guile-user, guile-devel I think we should trust what Mark says and not second guess him. Helping or being friend with someone is not among the worst crimes on my list. Den tors 17 okt. 2019 11:28zx spectrumgomas <spectrumgomas@gmail.com> skrev: > I'm a simple Guile user and I hope I'm wrong, but I think Mark H weaver are > saying half-thruth here > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00021.html > because he has a very close friendship witch Richard Stallmam: > "I've known RMS for a long time. For a few years, I spent most of my time > two doors down from him at the MIT AI lab. I was the FSF staff sysadmin for > a while, and did sysadmin work on RMS's laptop. I was his preferred typist > when he shattered his elbow and helped him replace his bandages, etc." > http://logs.guix.gnu.org/guile/2014-08-09.log > > I think the joint statement > https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ is the > true key factor of his return. > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:42 AM Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a > > co-maintainer of GNU Guile. > > > > Thanks, > > Mark > > > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer 2019-10-17 10:24 ` Mikael Djurfeldt @ 2019-10-17 10:33 ` tomas 2019-10-17 13:03 ` Eli Zaretskii 2019-10-17 10:52 ` zx spectrumgomas 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: tomas @ 2019-10-17 10:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mikael Djurfeldt; +Cc: zx spectrumgomas, guile-user, guile-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 484 bytes --] On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:24:03PM +0200, Mikael Djurfeldt wrote: > I think we should trust what Mark says and not second guess him. Definitely. I think this should count for *all*. Second-guessing anyone in this difficult situation can only add more difficulties on top. I think each of us should apply Hanlon's razor with much generosity. Towards all people involved (that doesn't mean we should paper over the obvious problems we have, mind you). Cheers -- tomás [-- Attachment #2: Digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 198 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer 2019-10-17 10:33 ` tomas @ 2019-10-17 13:03 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-10-17 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: tomas; +Cc: spectrumgomas, guile-user, guile-devel > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:33:33 +0200 > From: <tomas@tuxteam.de> > Cc: zx spectrumgomas <spectrumgomas@gmail.com>, guile-user <guile-user@gnu.org>, > guile-devel <guile-devel@gnu.org> > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:24:03PM +0200, Mikael Djurfeldt wrote: > > I think we should trust what Mark says and not second guess him. > > Definitely. I think this should count for *all*. Second-guessing anyone > in this difficult situation can only add more difficulties on top. Agreed. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer 2019-10-17 10:24 ` Mikael Djurfeldt 2019-10-17 10:33 ` tomas @ 2019-10-17 10:52 ` zx spectrumgomas 2019-10-17 11:21 ` Neil Jerram 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: zx spectrumgomas @ 2019-10-17 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mikael; +Cc: Mark H Weaver, guile-user, guile-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1463 bytes --] Let's hope so. But in Spain we have a proverb: "Blanco y en botella, leche". "White and bottle -> milk". Let's hope it doesn't come true. On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:24 PM Mikael Djurfeldt <mikael@djurfeldt.com> wrote: > I think we should trust what Mark says and not second guess him. > > Helping or being friend with someone is not among the worst crimes on my > list. > > Den tors 17 okt. 2019 11:28zx spectrumgomas <spectrumgomas@gmail.com> > skrev: > >> I'm a simple Guile user and I hope I'm wrong, but I think Mark H weaver >> are >> saying half-thruth here >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00021.html >> because he has a very close friendship witch Richard Stallmam: >> "I've known RMS for a long time. For a few years, I spent most of my time >> two doors down from him at the MIT AI lab. I was the FSF staff sysadmin >> for >> a while, and did sysadmin work on RMS's laptop. I was his preferred typist >> when he shattered his elbow and helped him replace his bandages, etc." >> http://logs.guix.gnu.org/guile/2014-08-09.log >> >> I think the joint statement >> https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ is the >> true key factor of his return. >> >> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:42 AM Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> wrote: >> >> > Hello all, >> > >> > In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a >> > co-maintainer of GNU Guile. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Mark >> > >> > >> > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2676 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer 2019-10-17 10:52 ` zx spectrumgomas @ 2019-10-17 11:21 ` Neil Jerram 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Neil Jerram @ 2019-10-17 11:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: zx spectrumgomas; +Cc: Mark H Weaver, guile-user, guile-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1742 bytes --] I'm afraid arguing by analogy or proverb rarely helps, because the analogy is usually inaccurate in some way. Also, what about Horchata? :-) On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 11:53, zx spectrumgomas <spectrumgomas@gmail.com> wrote: > Let's hope so. But in Spain we have a proverb: "Blanco y en botella, > leche". "White and bottle -> milk". Let's hope it doesn't come true. > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:24 PM Mikael Djurfeldt <mikael@djurfeldt.com> > wrote: > >> I think we should trust what Mark says and not second guess him. >> >> Helping or being friend with someone is not among the worst crimes on my >> list. >> >> Den tors 17 okt. 2019 11:28zx spectrumgomas <spectrumgomas@gmail.com> >> skrev: >> >>> I'm a simple Guile user and I hope I'm wrong, but I think Mark H weaver >>> are >>> saying half-thruth here >>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00021.html >>> because he has a very close friendship witch Richard Stallmam: >>> "I've known RMS for a long time. For a few years, I spent most of my time >>> two doors down from him at the MIT AI lab. I was the FSF staff sysadmin >>> for >>> a while, and did sysadmin work on RMS's laptop. I was his preferred >>> typist >>> when he shattered his elbow and helped him replace his bandages, etc." >>> http://logs.guix.gnu.org/guile/2014-08-09.log >>> >>> I think the joint statement >>> https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ is >>> the >>> true key factor of his return. >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:42 AM Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> wrote: >>> >>> > Hello all, >>> > >>> > In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a >>> > co-maintainer of GNU Guile. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Mark >>> > >>> > >>> >> [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3227 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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