From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Pirotte Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: GObject Introspection and GTK3 way forward Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 19:07:11 -0300 Message-ID: <20180905190711.5be306b5@capac> References: <20180905172902.GA3573@joshua.dnsalias.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/H0Wp3dmB3XAJgWMHgM4=Js="; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536185188 8653 195.159.176.226 (5 Sep 2018 22:06:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 22:06:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org To: Mike Gran Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 06 00:06:24 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fxfwN-00025V-8g for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2018 00:06:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58234 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxfyT-0000EP-2N for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 18:08:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38457) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxfyH-0000Dr-QH for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 18:08:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxfxI-0007Fr-Og for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 18:07:25 -0400 Original-Received: from maximusconfessor.all2all.org ([79.99.200.102]:42734) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxfxI-0007E3-F0 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 18:07:20 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maximusconfessor.all2all.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992041BE008B; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 00:07:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from maximusconfessor.all2all.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (maximusconfessor.all2all.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fPdTnux-zNRy; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 00:07:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from capac (unknown [179.210.17.78]) by maximusconfessor.all2all.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D68851BE0083; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 00:07:17 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20180905172902.GA3573@joshua.dnsalias.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.1 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 79.99.200.102 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:19653 Archived-At: --Sig_/H0Wp3dmB3XAJgWMHgM4=Js= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mike, sorry I didn't answer your previous email yet, but my laptop refused to wo= rk little after I did read it, and it took me almost two days to get it back.= .. > So, I've decided to make a go at finishing the GObject Introspection > and GTK3 story for Guile. I would very much like to have something > running in time for Fosdem 2019. Even getting back to work on G-Golf 'proper', I'm not sure I could match th= at schedule, so I understand your approach, no problem. > The former is beautiful code, the sort of code that you'd hope would > be able to solve the problem, but, I think the road to a beta release > doing things "properly" might take a long time. Thanks for the nice words. Yes, I really want to do things 'properly', and = yes, it takes an awful lots of time ... but that is my objective... > But since I need something running in a couple of months, I'm going to > port PyGObject to Guile. PyGObject is complex and full of special > cases, which leads me to believe that a proper Guile binding also > would need to be so. Though PyGObject is complex, porting PyGObject > to Guile, however, looks comparatively straightforward. If I were you, I'd try to run and use sbank: https://github.com/rotty/sbank.git [ even though itis a bit old and will need some love, it's retty well [ written and is in schee already ... t needs SPE - "This is SPE, a small set of scripts to make it easier to do multi-implementation development of R6RS libraries.", which used to be here http://rotty.yi.org/software/spe/ That url is not active anymore, if you go that route, let me know, I have a= copy and could send you a tarball (i's a small=20 David --Sig_/H0Wp3dmB3XAJgWMHgM4=Js= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEhCJlRZtBM3furJHe83T9k6MFetcFAluQU48ACgkQ83T9k6MF etea4Af/VXsFO9yBbtJwNYbge28pTKMH2IS6nxrMPIW1K4HkHRJGjF0Kt+jDG7B1 a4rvxwvECPA3oqxrVbF5+ST3+Cm6cEVQHDRYjwoKGDkm7ALq9HCEbT3mlivVuQcK n63C5mdmpjFiuILXLE208S3QPGXahT1E7lg/m9Q821EDqyjI4ogWrSAOtE25JBI/ ocbckU91+Bwu2K4+tZ+LOVtTmA2nAuzZZtp5BvIyLDrEkpjDnO/pP2B7cuoJLh2l tYhhzcoYEJp64wePeo0g6yVFayYDokXPCqCd4JMElhdj23Gi5U9Ug2qzRazMSVx9 utrkKgw0KInuYMM8DcVOfY5ZURirqg== =zPya -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/H0Wp3dmB3XAJgWMHgM4=Js=--