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From: David Pirotte <david@altosw.be>
To: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: port threadsafety redux
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:35:36 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150213163536.3c2e380a@capac> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vbj816sg.fsf@pobox.com>

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Hi Andy,

> ...
> This change fixed the crashes I was seeing, but it slows down port
> operations.  For an intel chip from a couple years ago the slowdown was
> something on the order of 3x, for a tight putchar() loop; for Loongson
> it could be as bad as 26x.  Mark was unhappy with this.

I agree with Mark here, especially because it slows down port operation even for
single threaded code.

>   But there are situations where this is not enough and there are also
>   situations where this is not wanted...

Indeed.

> One possible alternate solution would be to expose ports more to Scheme
> and so to make it easier and safer for Scheme to manipulate port data.
> This would also make it possible to implement coroutines in Scheme that
> yield when IO would block.

Not only does it sounds the best approach, but I can't see drawbacks, is there any?
I am in favor of this solution: in the end, only the user knows, and the way Mark
resumed this in his email is perfect [the last 3 paragraphs]

> Or, we could just make stdio/stderr be locked by default, and some other
> things not.  Seems squirrely to me though.

I would not do that, even for these ports, I'd leave them under the user
locking responsiblity.

Cheers,
David

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-13 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-11 21:23 port threadsafety redux Andy Wingo
2015-02-13 18:35 ` David Pirotte [this message]
2015-02-17 12:11 ` Chris Vine
2015-03-04 10:18 ` Ludovic Courtès

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