From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: rm@fabula.de Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: AARRRRGGH! Die Libtool, die! Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:50:30 +0100 Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20030218185030.GB30623@www> References: <200302151436.h1FEacTL013547@smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl> <87smupi86u.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <15950.54058.520676.489870@blauw.xs4all.nl> <200302160056.QAA15802@morrowfield.regexps.com> <878ywd5x4l.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1045592572 19363 80.91.224.249 (18 Feb 2003 18:22:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hanwen@cs.uu.nl Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18lCOE-00051I-00 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:22:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18lCQ6-0007u8-04 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:24:42 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18lCPd-0007gX-00 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:24:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18lCOL-0006uE-00 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:22:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [217.22.192.104] (helo=www.elogos.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18lCNg-00065g-00 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:22:13 -0500 Original-Received: by www.elogos.de (Postfix, from userid 5001) id 3AFEC1407F; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:50:30 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Rob Browning Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <878ywd5x4l.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Original-cc: guile-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:1955 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.devel:1955 On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:14:50AM -0600, Rob Browning wrote: > Tom Lord writes: > > > Both perl and python are not stable. `sh' hasn't changed much in a > > decade and probably won't for another decade if ever. `sh' is more > > than adequate for the job. If you must reach for something more, > > especially on this list, for gosh sakes, pick something rooted in > > stable standards: reach for SCSH, you traitors. > > If SCSH (or even Guile) really is comparable in portability to Perl, > and if we were not concerned with having a large pool of potential > contributors (and we might not be), and if we don't think that the > size of the existing base of systems with the language in question > already installed is relevant, then of course I'd rather use Scheme. > My initial feeling was that at least one of the items above was > probably false, but if not, then that's great. How about 'gu', a really portable guile kernel that can be used to bootstrap? It seems that a lot of the portability problems of 'sh' are syntax / feature set problems. Wouldn't it be worth the effort to work on a (non-interactive) guile-core shell? Ralf Mattes _______________________________________________ Guile-devel mailing list Guile-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-devel