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From: Tom Lord <lord@regexps.com>
Cc: owinebar@free-expression.org, djurfeldt@nada.kth.se,
	dirk@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de, neil@ossau.uklinux.net,
	guile-devel@gnu.org, djurfeldt@nada.kth.se
Subject: Re: goops and memoization
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 00:38:53 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200212030838.AAA19360@morrowfield.regexps.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xy7lm37y1l7.fsf@linnaeus.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (message from Mikael Djurfeldt on Tue, 03 Dec 2002 08:59:48 +0100)




       > But, as said earlier, being a efficiency freak, I'd like a
       > solution which works on the memoized code.  In order to
       > maintain a reasonably clean separation of goops code and the
       > details of memoizing, it might then be a good idea to provide
       > some kind of code traverser which goops can plug into and
       > operate with minimal knowledge of memoized representation and
       > environment.


Abstractly, you're computing something like:

	(M (O (U (M <source>))))

where M is the memoizer, O the optimizer, and U the unmemoizer.

Your ideal is to have O be a clean, perhaps even portable,
source->source transform that knows nothing about memoization, yet for
the whole composition to be fast.

Have you considered the approach of writing a custom optimizer (not O,
but another optimizer) that can do a good job of "compiling" (scheme
to scheme):


	(lambda (ms) (M (O (U ms))))

?

If O is very clean/high-level, you can do all kinds of tricks by
transforming it (e.g. automatic conversion to demand-driven
execution).  Writing O is just writing (with nothing extraneous) the
transforms that describe the possible optimizations, and then tools
that compile O and compositions of O with M and U can work out when to
apply those transformations and short-cut the compositions.


-t


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  reply	other threads:[~2002-12-03  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10212011757340.18607-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-12-01 18:00 ` goops and memoization Neil Jerram
2002-12-02  8:45 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-12-02  9:14   ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-12-03  0:13   ` Lynn Winebarger
2002-12-03  7:59     ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-12-03  8:38       ` Tom Lord [this message]
2002-12-04  2:25         ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-12-04  2:49           ` Tom Lord
2002-12-03 17:17       ` Lynn Winebarger
2002-12-04  2:41         ` Mikael Djurfeldt
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10212021836430.21423-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-12-04  2:19 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10212021650410.21423-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-12-04  1:53 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-12-04  2:38   ` Tom Lord
2002-12-04  2:56   ` Rob Browning
2002-11-16 13:41 Dirk Herrmann
2002-11-17 10:56 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-20 18:11   ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-11-21  3:11     ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-21  3:28       ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-21 23:50         ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-22  1:08           ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-22  1:13             ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-24  9:41               ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-24 16:32                 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-21 20:31       ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-22  0:49         ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-29 22:48       ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-29 23:31         ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-21 20:36     ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-24 16:42       ` Dirk Herrmann

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