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From: Tom Lord <lord@regexps.com>
Subject: Re: What can I do to help? (conclusions)
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:48:32 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200210041948.MAA16811@morrowfield.regexps.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3k7kyc9q2.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net> (message from Neil Jerram on 04 Oct 2002 19:58:13 +0100)




Yay!  Sanity:

       neil@ossau.uklinux.net

       > I think that it's far more productive to have particular
       > application-level needs in mind, always keeping an eye on
       > generality where possible, than to work on a checklist per se
       > (or a comparison with what is available for other languages).


How about:


*) some Sim* style games

*) a "robot-wars" game

*) a symbolic math package with nice display features

*) a customizable graphing package designed with your favorite
   nearby underbudgeted scientists

*) a customizable auto-classifier for incoming email

*) an implementation of the `arch' revision control system :-)

*) a customizable `lint' for C programs

*) a customizable file manager with both text-based and graphical
   interfaces

*) a _fast_ cellular automata toy, with gosper's 13-way recursion hack
   for peering _far_ into the future

*) (with apologies to GnuCash) a purely-scheme finance manager

*) a fancy wiki

*) a database and syntax-based query engine for programs ("precise tags")

*) an interactive shell

*) a suite of the standard, core PDA apps, with both text and
   graphical interfaces

*) an extensible text formatting system to replace texinfo


I think all the apps in that list would benefit from (or even require)
extensibility.  They'd all benefit from the conciseness that can be
achieved by doing them in Scheme.   Several of them require some GUI
tools.  Several will put pressure on text processing and/or shell
features.  All of them will present some performance challenges.

An alternative would be to pick a handful of such apps and then start
architecting a framework first -- but my sense is that that would
require a dedicated team of people hacking Guile full-time for it to
take less than an eternity.   So, yeah, using some specific apps to
drive a hill-climbing approach to framework evolution might yield
interesting results.

-t



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-10-04 19:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-28 10:58 What can I do to help? Dr William Bland
2002-09-28 16:19 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-09-30  8:56   ` Dr William Bland
2002-09-30 10:57     ` Dale P. Smith
2002-09-30 11:47       ` Dr William Bland
2002-09-30 17:59       ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-09-30 18:27         ` Dale P. Smith
2002-09-30 18:52         ` Neil Jerram
2002-09-30 19:22         ` Tom Lord
2002-09-30 18:30       ` Tom Lord
2002-09-30 22:49         ` Rob Browning
2002-10-01  2:56           ` Rob Browning
2002-10-13 16:50           ` Rob Browning
2002-10-19 11:34             ` Jeff Read
2002-09-30 18:38     ` Neil Jerram
2002-09-30 22:35       ` Derek Atkins
     [not found]         ` <warlord@MIT.EDU>
2002-09-30 23:33           ` gnucash
2002-09-30 23:49             ` Derek Atkins
2002-10-01  8:43               ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-10-01 14:15                 ` Derek Atkins
2002-10-01 15:00                   ` Rob Browning
2002-10-02 16:40               ` Rob Browning
2002-10-02 23:15               ` Neil Jerram
2002-10-02 16:34             ` Rob Browning
2002-10-02 16:28         ` Rob Browning
2002-10-02  9:18       ` Martin Grabmueller
2002-09-30 16:13 ` Rob Browning
2002-09-30 18:39   ` Neil Jerram
2002-10-01 17:14 ` What can I do to help? (conclusions) Dr William Bland
2002-10-02 23:15   ` Neil Jerram
2002-10-03 17:14   ` Evan Prodromou
2002-10-04 10:01     ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-04 10:57     ` Clinton Ebadi
2002-10-04 12:26     ` Dale P. Smith
2002-10-04 13:29       ` rm
2002-10-04 16:14         ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-06 17:08           ` rm
2002-10-06 17:34             ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-06 23:23               ` Marius Vollmer
2002-10-07  4:03                 ` Rob Browning
2002-10-08 16:31                   ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-08 17:27                     ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-08 20:05                     ` Rob Browning
2002-10-08 20:55                       ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-10  5:26                         ` Rob Browning
2002-10-10  8:34                           ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-08 21:28                   ` Marius Vollmer
2002-10-07  9:00                 ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-07 13:16                   ` Marius Vollmer
2002-10-07 14:33                     ` Guile CVS Build Problems (was: Re: What can I do to help? (conclusions)) Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-08 23:05                       ` Marius Vollmer
2002-10-08 23:40                         ` Rob Browning
2002-10-08 23:13                       ` Marius Vollmer
2002-10-09  7:56                         ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-09 15:30                           ` Rob Browning
2002-10-09 17:25                             ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-09 17:37                               ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-09 20:18                                 ` Rob Browning
2002-10-09 20:43                                   ` Rob Browning
2002-10-09 21:17                                     ` Rob Browning
2002-10-09 21:39                                       ` Rob Browning
2002-10-07 22:32                     ` What can I do to help? (conclusions) Rob Browning
2002-10-07 21:08                 ` Daniel Skarda
     [not found]                   ` <878z19rl8r.fsf@alice.rotty.yi.org>
2002-10-10 12:07                     ` Daniel Skarda
2002-10-04 13:14     ` Evan Prodromou
2002-10-04 15:27       ` Rob Browning
2002-10-04 15:22     ` Rob Browning
2002-10-04 16:02     ` Dale P. Smith
2002-10-04 18:58     ` Neil Jerram
2002-10-04 19:26       ` Evan Prodromou
2002-10-04 19:48       ` Tom Lord [this message]
2002-10-06  8:46     ` Fast format (was Re: What can I do to help?) Daniel Skarda
2002-10-06 11:20       ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-10-06 17:53         ` Daniel Skarda
2002-10-03 12:00 ` Debian packages (Re: " Daniel Skarda
2002-10-04 12:33   ` Evan Prodromou
2002-10-04 15:43   ` Rob Browning
2002-10-04 18:46     ` Daniel Skarda
2002-10-05  5:51       ` Rob Browning
2002-10-05  8:55   ` Neil Jerram
2002-10-06  8:31     ` Daniel Skarda
2002-10-06  8:51       ` Jorgen Schaefer
2002-10-06 11:21         ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-10-03 18:10 ` What can I do to help? Marius Vollmer
2002-10-03 21:32   ` Neil Jerram
2002-10-03 22:24     ` Marius Vollmer
2002-10-04 18:48       ` guile-debugger (was Re: What can I do to help?) Neil Jerram
2002-10-04 21:26         ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-10-05  9:03           ` Neil Jerram
2002-10-06  8:51             ` Daniel Skarda
2002-10-12 13:36             ` Marius Vollmer

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