From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: rm@fabula.de Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: What can I do to help? (conclusions) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:29:11 +0200 Sender: guile-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <20021004132911.GD20754@www> References: <20020928105825.A8084@ns.jfreebies.com> <20021001171420.A21559@ns.jfreebies.com> <87it0jfnrg.fsf@prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us> <20021004082605.17748f88.dsmith@altustech.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033737222 31470 127.0.0.1 (4 Oct 2002 13:13:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17xSGw-0008BC-00 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:13:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xSGN-0007Gb-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 09:13:03 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17xSFp-0006og-00 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 09:12:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17xSFo-0006nm-00 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 09:12:29 -0400 Original-Received: from www.elogos.de ([212.18.192.92]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xSFm-0006lr-00 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 09:12:27 -0400 Original-Received: by www.elogos.de (Postfix, from userid 5001) id 57F9110482D; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:29:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: "Dale P. Smith" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021004082605.17748f88.dsmith@altustech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Errors-To: guile-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:1434 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.devel:1434 On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 08:26:05AM -0400, Dale P. Smith wrote: > > It's absolutely criminal that you could come and ask for a job to do > > and get turned away. There is so, so, so much to do. Shame on us! > > > > I think there are a ton of projects that need to be done for Guile > > that are not yet done. For example: > > > > * A SAX2 parser GOOPS interface and drivers for libxml, expat, > > xerces, etc. (Whoever told you not to make it easy for Guile > > developers to use XML is a bonehead, by the way. XML will never > > be s-expressions, but that doesn't mean that using it isn't > > important!) > > That must have been me. Yes, I'm a bonehead a lot. Sorry. No, you're not! Let's not talk about libxml-bindings for a moment (more on that in a later mail) -- the problem with the above mentioned things is simply: there's (almost) no documentation on how to do it. Yes, a GOOPS-ish guile-libxml would be great, but there _is_ currently no C goops interface. Throwing such a task at a newcomer is "absolute criminal" :-) Oh, and i guess we shouldn't forget that libxml has several dozent functions and about two handfull of smobable objects (and a pretty tricky memory concept when it comes to guile bindings, if i might add). I agree on the comments on XMLs boneheadedness ;-) > I had visions of Guile using xml as a doc format (and other horrors) and > responded without really reading your message. > > Being able to interface with other systems using xml is a good thing and > needs to be done. There is this stuff called soap that uses xml for > rpc's (iirc). Yes, considering the fact that xml seems to be GNOMEs configuration format and the fact that many modern document formats are XML languages bindings are important (SVG, XSL-FO, MS-Office, StarOffice, etc.). For SOAP use i'd suggest a binding to one of the exisiting SOAP libraries, it just doesn't pay of to deal with SOAP on the XML level. - Ralf > -Dale > > -- > Dale P. Smith > Senior Systems Consultant, | Treasurer, > Altus Technologies Corporation | Cleveland Linux Users Group > dsmith@altustech.com | http://cleveland.lug.net > 440-746-9000 x339 | > > > _______________________________________________ > Guile-devel mailing list > Guile-devel@gnu.org > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-devel _______________________________________________ Guile-devel mailing list Guile-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-devel