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From: Tom Lord <lord@regexps.com>
Cc: hanwen@cs.uu.nl
Subject: Re: lazy sweeping.
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:31:40 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200207290431.VAA08976@morrowfield.regexps.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15684.32520.154258.348830@blauw.xs4all.nl> (message from Han-Wen on Mon, 29 Jul 2002 01:32:24 +0200)



       Nothing spectacular. But now checkout ... the startup time!
       (this is the time for starting guile, and then pressing ^D)


This is not a very good measure of effective start-up time in
SCM-based (incremental graph translation) Schemes.  Odds are you have
a lot of untranslated code in that image, and when I add my
application code, you'll have even more untranslated code.  Substitute
anything useful for that ^D, and the real costs will start to become
more apparent, especially if your application involves long-running
processes.

SCM performs pretty damn well if what you want is a fast
edit-rerun-debug cycle for CAE and symbolic math tasks, especially
with the special GC for environments.  It's also great if you have an
`eval'-intensive application.

Unexec helps, though I've noted substantial qualitative differences
between unexec _before_ running through most execution paths
vs. _after_: incremental translation in action.

Heck, you want _really_ fast start up time?  Read the first line of
input to Guile before doing _anything_ else, doing a short-circuit 
exit if the first line is just EOF.  That'll be really fast ;-)


-t



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-07-29  4:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-28 23:32 lazy sweeping Han-Wen
2002-07-29  0:07 ` Michael Livshin
2002-07-29  9:48   ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-07-29 10:14     ` Michael Livshin
2002-07-29 12:40       ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-07-29 13:00         ` Michael Livshin
2002-07-29 13:06           ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-07-30 10:09   ` Han-Wen
2002-07-30 12:10     ` Michael Livshin
2002-07-29  4:31 ` Tom Lord [this message]
2002-07-29 15:17   ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-07-29 13:16 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-07-29 13:22   ` Han-Wen Nienhuys

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