Stepping back up as a co-maintainer

Stepping back up as a co-maintainer

[Mark H Weaver]

Hello all,

In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a
co-maintainer of GNU Guile.

     Thanks,
       Mark

Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer

[sirgazil]

---- On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 00:41:00 -0500 Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> wrote ----

 > Hello all, 
 >  
 > In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a 
 > co-maintainer of GNU Guile. 
 >  
 >  Thanks, 
 >  Mark 
 >  
 > 

\o/


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Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer

[Jean Louis]

* Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> [2019-10-16 01:42]:
> Hello all,
> 
> In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a
> co-maintainer of GNU Guile.

I am welcoming it, thank you for stepping back up.

Jean

Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer

[zx spectrumgomas]

I'm a simple Guile user and I hope I'm wrong, but I think Mark H weaver are
saying half-thruth here
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00021.html
because he has a very close friendship witch Richard Stallmam:
"I've known RMS for a long time. For a few years, I spent most of my time
two doors down from him at the MIT AI lab. I was the FSF staff sysadmin for
a while, and did sysadmin work on RMS's laptop. I was his preferred typist
when he shattered his elbow and helped him replace his bandages, etc."
http://logs.guix.gnu.org/guile/2014-08-09.log

I think the joint statement
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ is the
true key factor of his return.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:42 AM Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a
> co-maintainer of GNU Guile.
>
>      Thanks,
>        Mark
>
>

Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer

[Mikael Djurfeldt]

I think we should trust what Mark says and not second guess him.

Helping or being friend with someone is not among the worst crimes on my
list.

Den tors 17 okt. 2019 11:28zx spectrumgomas <spectrumgomas@gmail.com> skrev:

> I'm a simple Guile user and I hope I'm wrong, but I think Mark H weaver are
> saying half-thruth here
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00021.html
> because he has a very close friendship witch Richard Stallmam:
> "I've known RMS for a long time. For a few years, I spent most of my time
> two doors down from him at the MIT AI lab. I was the FSF staff sysadmin for
> a while, and did sysadmin work on RMS's laptop. I was his preferred typist
> when he shattered his elbow and helped him replace his bandages, etc."
> http://logs.guix.gnu.org/guile/2014-08-09.log
>
> I think the joint statement
> https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ is the
> true key factor of his return.
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:42 AM Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a
> > co-maintainer of GNU Guile.
> >
> >      Thanks,
> >        Mark
> >
> >
>

Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer

[tomas]

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On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:24:03PM +0200, Mikael Djurfeldt wrote:
> I think we should trust what Mark says and not second guess him.

Definitely. I think this should count for *all*. Second-guessing anyone
in this difficult situation can only add more difficulties on top.

I think each of us should apply Hanlon's razor with much generosity.

Towards all people involved (that doesn't mean we should paper over
the obvious problems we have, mind you).

Cheers
-- tomás

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Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer

[zx spectrumgomas]

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Let's hope so. But in Spain we have a proverb: "Blanco y en botella,
leche". "White and bottle -> milk". Let's hope it doesn't come true.

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:24 PM Mikael Djurfeldt <mikael@djurfeldt.com>
wrote:

> I think we should trust what Mark says and not second guess him.
>
> Helping or being friend with someone is not among the worst crimes on my
> list.
>
> Den tors 17 okt. 2019 11:28zx spectrumgomas <spectrumgomas@gmail.com>
> skrev:
>
>> I'm a simple Guile user and I hope I'm wrong, but I think Mark H weaver
>> are
>> saying half-thruth here
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00021.html
>> because he has a very close friendship witch Richard Stallmam:
>> "I've known RMS for a long time. For a few years, I spent most of my time
>> two doors down from him at the MIT AI lab. I was the FSF staff sysadmin
>> for
>> a while, and did sysadmin work on RMS's laptop. I was his preferred typist
>> when he shattered his elbow and helped him replace his bandages, etc."
>> http://logs.guix.gnu.org/guile/2014-08-09.log
>>
>> I think the joint statement
>> https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ is the
>> true key factor of his return.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:42 AM Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a
>> > co-maintainer of GNU Guile.
>> >
>> >      Thanks,
>> >        Mark
>> >
>> >
>>
>

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Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer

[Neil Jerram]

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I'm afraid arguing by analogy or proverb rarely helps, because the analogy
is usually inaccurate in some way.

Also, what about Horchata? :-)

On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 11:53, zx spectrumgomas <spectrumgomas@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Let's hope so. But in Spain we have a proverb: "Blanco y en botella,
> leche". "White and bottle -> milk". Let's hope it doesn't come true.
>
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:24 PM Mikael Djurfeldt <mikael@djurfeldt.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think we should trust what Mark says and not second guess him.
>>
>> Helping or being friend with someone is not among the worst crimes on my
>> list.
>>
>> Den tors 17 okt. 2019 11:28zx spectrumgomas <spectrumgomas@gmail.com>
>> skrev:
>>
>>> I'm a simple Guile user and I hope I'm wrong, but I think Mark H weaver
>>> are
>>> saying half-thruth here
>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00021.html
>>> because he has a very close friendship witch Richard Stallmam:
>>> "I've known RMS for a long time. For a few years, I spent most of my time
>>> two doors down from him at the MIT AI lab. I was the FSF staff sysadmin
>>> for
>>> a while, and did sysadmin work on RMS's laptop. I was his preferred
>>> typist
>>> when he shattered his elbow and helped him replace his bandages, etc."
>>> http://logs.guix.gnu.org/guile/2014-08-09.log
>>>
>>> I think the joint statement
>>> https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ is
>>> the
>>> true key factor of his return.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:42 AM Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hello all,
>>> >
>>> > In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a
>>> > co-maintainer of GNU Guile.
>>> >
>>> >      Thanks,
>>> >        Mark
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>

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Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:33:33 +0200
> From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
> Cc: zx spectrumgomas <spectrumgomas@gmail.com>, guile-user <guile-user@gnu.org>,
>  guile-devel <guile-devel@gnu.org>
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:24:03PM +0200, Mikael Djurfeldt wrote:
> > I think we should trust what Mark says and not second guess him.
> 
> Definitely. I think this should count for *all*. Second-guessing anyone
> in this difficult situation can only add more difficulties on top.

Agreed.