From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mike Gran Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Replacing Guile test-suite with SRFI-64? 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IMHO, I think Guile should not depend too heavily on Guile for testing itself. It is bad bootstrapping practice. And personally, I find that errors in srfi-64 tests are more difficult to interpret that errors in the guile test suite framework. The logging is worse. - Mike