From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Arne Babenhauserheide Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel,gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Request for feedback on SRFI-126 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 22:05:29 +0200 Message-ID: <1555352.V50ucWGNsT@fluss> References: <87zj08t5w1.fsf@T420.taylan> <87mvw7t100.fsf@T420.taylan> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1587655.URKpLRL1rP"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443647367 6516 80.91.229.3 (30 Sep 2015 21:09:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 21:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel To: guile-user@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 30 23:09:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhOco-0005o1-I6 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 23:09:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33234 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhOcn-0007m3-K0 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 17:09:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57418) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zh19g-0003Qs-En for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 16:05:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zh19d-00053x-3R for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 16:05:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:50055) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zh19c-00050s-K1; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 16:05:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fluss.localnet ([85.212.116.191]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LkPjj-1aDakP0ILj-00cOtN; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 22:05:34 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/4.14.8 (Linux/3.14.14-gentoo; KDE/4.14.8; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:OwiZyQn38NPrkbWwD8nI9JAhsntC7JaCyh/e2bVoNqzQNAbdwgk AGxlu/9KxuS+sZ8lv0BBeC65zlIKGraoGFcuMHC7+uvRkCPqcMzOGATVASKUw3P0Oy3xzrH TGKLZW+/SOre+G34/fhcYp4ISjT9kNJImdrJtxzGXjFqxLqf/aPmLOp34vl6UadT7H+v3IE qi4YRdrLSbUY75wAn04jA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:EkWmRT+A0KQ=:y05cdgfKtzvXE8RfvX+Ij4 YvGcuNx7sWRSUizqW/4exGUO3nLC4l9yIfOzVPMIyAEYRgqBwB3VRUeKF2h8kESN3bv2ryGu3 rYPsdd19AvPbUVhTZ4Ai6Ydclx6RKCJfTAjzSglv6AxUOhyexGhRy95d6GaIAqmCTP2pij1Xv e34HSs7EYT0DCSKtThVIflIxBhpUplBJIXtFPdM2g3ukzevlxnvLqpY/1DdvRHjovP5YVFcfB fwp+ej9c5XJbl0x6IkjED/wxN/lMyzhn+um7J1nG8ywQ/qbF8tTSFPqcbgCJfwYG3e06kLsuY Dagw+l3Ydup+iRRhyDpbABQv+bmkQfZ0jTDS2RDFDYptxRthD9trwMbIM4ETzdsJa8yOyN98U l5bOI6dXpmUAoGP4gr6EqbLM6ZIgksW1pOTTOMBPK6qa25QC4N4w+ZZNQbUoDEuJXh8Cgr1lN jI2S+9/lG1tqQN7oTuIBts2xiTaKgH+jGaXqV7DxHDAdmADMO/wZfwZ9kDS0emkwdORx3KjJ6 7mP6sE7/KSdBvJtlsuW6nDnYjwhbRlsws/vh/1lMuVG6f/s65f3BiSaudvGMVZMP2dJDTyXBM S5D4npfuvH2xXWHN8jKQTT4DB0gqC/bJoACtfbQnILWaIiBXuNDWWGst22c/w58GKFR2plKOf pNU5pW5eyKmHevN1TEZ+Kb/16sqvSJsI7CcUxAh3kngLUlm+Q/V5uK2nMqQat7AAXSzxT08bL BJPNdAC/ytclcnSS X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.12 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:17873 gmane.lisp.guile.user:12055 Archived-At: --nextPart1587655.URKpLRL1rP Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Am Montag, 28. September 2015, 22:02:42 schrieb Panicz Maciej Godek: > Even within the Scheme community there appear voices complaining on t= he > Lisp syntax, like SRFI-105, SRFI-110 or SRFI-119. I wrote SRFI-119, not because I want Scheme to become more like Python, but because I want it to *look* more like Python while retaining its strengths. It isn=E2=80=99t necessary to sacrifice the strengths of Scheme to beco= me as easy for new programmers as Python. However it does require accepting that a large part of the utility of any language lies in its libraries: The best language for any job is the one which provides the solution off-the-shelf. SRFIs could give Scheme such solutions, and the flexibility of Scheme would allow making these solutions much more elegant than what can be created with Python. But someone has to actually do that: Creating libraries with consistent style which provide to the application developer what Scheme already provides to the language developer. 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