From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Neil W. Van Dyke" Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: kudos and observation Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 08:17:44 -0500 Sender: guile-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <15531.248.122662.447359@winona.neilvandyke.org> References: <15525.26721.978797.441772@winona.neilvandyke.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1017848586 23220 127.0.0.1 (3 Apr 2002 15:43:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 15:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nwv@neilvandyke.org, guile-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16smug-00062P-00 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:43:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16slm2-00079S-00; Wed, 03 Apr 2002 09:30:06 -0500 Original-Received: from dsl092-071-029.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.92.71.29] helo=winona.neilvandyke.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16skdq-0004fe-00 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2002 08:17:34 -0500 Original-Received: from nwv by winona.neilvandyke.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 16ske0-0007oi-00; Wed, 03 Apr 2002 08:17:44 -0500 Original-To: ttn@glug.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.01 under Emacs 21.2.1 Errors-To: guile-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:294 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.devel:294 Thien-Thi Nguyen writes at 01:41 03-Apr-2002 -0800: > Lack of say is a disempowerment of programmers, and, once > there is the inevitable disagreement on points that the > disempowered programmers care about, this creates morale > problems. All of which seems antithetical to the spirit of > free software. > > well, you're sliding from disproportionate to lack but i follow > you. what is the ideal proportion? how do you determine this? I don't think there is any simple rule, especially for a project like Guile, which has some clear organizational hierarchy but a strong volunteer flavor overall. When making decisions in a group like this, I think people in general tend to negotiate the proportions subtly for each situation. More a collective art than a science. There's few enough core Guile developers that there should be little need for edicts. The team is small enough for everyone to be heard in a discussion. Also, in those cases in which consensus on an issue is not quickly reached based on the merits of the issue alone, everyone on the team recognizes that compromise is sometimes necessary to move forward and to maintain a cooperative tone. (Just an opinion. I really hesitated to say anything at all, since I'm not a core Guile developer myself. But I hated to see unresolved team dynamics glitches that probably require only the slightest prodding to fix.) -- Neil W. Van Dyke http://www.neilvandyke.org/ _______________________________________________ Guile-devel mailing list Guile-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-devel