From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nala Ginrut Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: What is needed in guildhall to include it in Guile? 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[74.207.246.185]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x1sm38359087pfi.42.2016.02.22.09.57.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 22 Feb 2016 09:57:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87k2lw1yvd.fsf@web.de> X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::233 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:18186 Archived-At: IMO, at least we need a convenient way to add new packages. Of course we may send mail to an official maintainer, but it's not good experience because folks do the work part time, most of the time they are busy. I may anticipate the packages amount for Guile would be increasing if we done it properly. And I believe we need a critical feature for "guild list-packages" to show the actual module path, say, if I installed "rbtree" module, I don't know how should I load it. I've tried (use-modules (rbtree)) and (use-modules (rbtree rbtree)) but failed. It's better to show it's module path in the information. It's unreasonable to force users to download and read the src. I think this feature could be put either "list-packages" or "show" command. Best regards. On Mon, 2016-02-22 at 16:08 +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Hi, > > In january there was a thread here about Guildhall with the notion > > > I encourage you to hack on Guildhall to make it more usable for your > > needs. > > I finished my PhD last month, so I have some freed-up time — and I would > like to use some of it to hack on Guildhall and make it ready for > inclusion in Guile. > > However there’s one stumbling block: I don’t see what’s actually missing > from it. So I want to be bold and request something: > > > Please tell me what’s missing in Guildhall, so I can implement it. > > > Best wishes, > Arne > > [1]: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2016-01/msg00010.html > > PS: I write now, because I just stumbled over a situation again, where > I’d have loved to just have guildhall at hand by default. I wanted > to test uptop.scm which needs guile-ssh, so I just wanted to quickly > get guile-ssh and run the script. Yes, guix can do that. But the > guix daemons weren’t running. >