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From: Nala Ginrut <nalaginrut@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>, guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: About Guile crypto support
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:51:39 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1360576299.5068.20.camel@Renee-desktop.suse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sj55bjxz.fsf@gnu.org>

On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 16:12 +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Daniel Hartwig <mandyke@gmail.com> skribis:
> 
> > By the way, I very much like the conventions used in the GnuTLS
> > bindings.  The enums in particular make a lot of sense for a security
> > library, with the extreme type safety they provide.  I will pursue a
> > similar approach.
> 
> Yeah, I think it’s helpful.
> 
> > One question.  With the current state of FFI, do you think it matters
> > much whether the bulk of the bindings are done in C or FFI?
> 
> I think it depends on the amount of public C structs, enums, inlines,
> and constants, and how often they are changed.  When there are too many
> of them and they are subject to change, it might be easier to use C
> (though that can be worked around from the FFI by calling the C
> compiler, as in [0].)
> 
> My impression is that libgcrypt uses mostly opaque pointer types and has
> a stable API, so the using FFI should be just fine.
> 
> An issue with the FFI is distros where .la and .so files are only
> available in the -dev package, because then ‘dynamic-link’ won’t work
> unless that -dev package is installed (as recently discussed on
> guile-user.)unanimous
> 

This could be a real issue since almost all mainstream distros packaging
policy force *.so be put in -devel packages. Though openSUSE/debian adds
the exception for Guile, I believe it's so hard to do that for every
packages uses Guile. 
Considering Guile would exists in every GNU project (in principle), the
issue may break the packaging policy totally. 

@andy: But I do like to have our own dynamic-link without libltdl, which
will be interesting and a study chance for me . ;-)
And maybe it'll be blamed for reinventing wheels?

> Thanks,
> Ludo’.
> 
> [0] http://git.sv.gnu.org/cgit/libchop.git/tree/guile2/chop/internal.scm#n130
> 





  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-11  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-03 12:55 About Guile crypto support Nala Ginrut
2013-02-03 15:37 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-02-04  1:14 ` Daniel Hartwig
2013-02-04  3:12   ` Nala Ginrut
2013-02-04  3:35     ` Daniel Hartwig
2013-02-04  4:15       ` Nala Ginrut
2013-02-04 23:03 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-05  2:43   ` Nala Ginrut
2013-02-05  2:57     ` Noah Lavine
2013-02-06 13:58       ` Nala Ginrut
2013-02-05 15:48     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-06  4:18       ` Daniel Hartwig
2013-02-06  4:28         ` Daniel Hartwig
2013-02-08 16:21         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-09  1:37           ` Daniel Hartwig
2013-02-09 15:12             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-09 17:02               ` Andy Wingo
2013-02-09 17:50                 ` Mark H Weaver
2013-02-09 20:44                   ` Noah Lavine
2013-02-09 21:53                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-11  8:20                   ` Andy Wingo
2013-02-11  9:15                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-02-11 10:46                 ` Mike Gran
2013-02-11 13:14                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-11  9:51               ` Nala Ginrut [this message]
2013-02-11 15:23                 ` Greg Troxel
2013-02-12  1:12                   ` Daniel Hartwig
2013-02-12  4:20                     ` Nala Ginrut
2013-02-12  5:21                       ` Daniel Hartwig
2013-02-12  7:40                   ` Dynamic FFI vs Static FFI (was Re: About Guile crypto support) Mark H Weaver
2013-02-12 13:52                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-12 18:24                       ` Mark H Weaver
2013-02-12 21:49                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-02-14  7:21                         ` William ML Leslie
2013-02-15 13:34                           ` Nala Ginrut

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