From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mike Gran Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Minimal Guile Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 18:09:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1325642994.97968.YahooMailNeo@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1324326921.17612.YahooMailNeo@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1324483391.16920.YahooMailNeo@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <87fwfwlavy.fsf@gnu.org> <1325631236.82931.YahooMailNeo@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <87ty4cgt65.fsf@netris.org> Reply-To: Mike Gran NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325643007 18773 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2012 02:10:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 02:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ludovic_Court=E8s?= , "guile-devel@gnu.org" To: Mark H Weaver Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 04 03:10:03 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiGIi-0007nZ-Nf for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 03:10:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32813 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiGIh-0000sE-S3 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:09:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38407) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiGIe-0000ry-Qv for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:09:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiGId-0005gw-QI for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:09:56 -0500 Original-Received: from nm26.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([98.139.52.223]:38792) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiGId-0005gq-AB for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:09:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [98.139.52.195] by nm26.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2012 02:09:54 -0000 Original-Received: from [98.139.52.184] by tm8.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2012 02:09:54 -0000 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1067.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2012 02:09:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 896635.66684.bm@omp1067.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Original-Received: (qmail 2260 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jan 2012 02:09:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1325642994; bh=QKw01NLcLF4PY2NYjO15+5uO5TxCmgGhpNe7wjnHmOI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=dpqWAb+FaZU2QaD8rI48QolxawsgmlYJ+dLez4NBzYT4PRYGZlOyYF7ELIhrHyLRnk5Q2rMiiv63nRHfOEKkJghkreLUVEbTB2+g45z14neNof51LoRRgNyCEt30KTzxD7kSTBPUT6OWyvW8wKFQudZF2AMHtxVS7/MzQZfOcnU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=u7EE9lg86wtGZBaGZ3H/aGkwygCPoUWKxl2yLSTcfKaZx3JL/w9V+7RC7jC5jOBxn9e0uQEYaOZjYje+4bnqPniof0AbQ44m7eKcabQezkRueYoXFM/fVZgTjElfTnqKr7VecENaR5/WnivibzQdybL41Dqp2xkT9wERRgW07SQ=; X-YMail-OSG: Q0RVhzoVM1lNvi9mYYASHvxct26KlEExP.dMLtVPWfh5GlN z.KZ39OgfTZ8R_m4yNiyenaMCYlQ7TN7Y44xuhWUYanIqW1i_7LLXDa215g6 QkEF6MYIRrRFBxTZHhE0oIEuL7sijzZuD3W3WpgCRF23NwT2lhkHvBHUCuby .DhiI7jbgZw3oa32zvdYM6Qy.PqsrOgDfs6swT3QI2k3WTA_bVGBLKvLl9NB RfybnUt6k7ugGBylM9Giq3TJi8N4whDU8yB1ZPr87005o2WcEp.AVVN3KiH9 .GhQrESpyHPHnqPDh7j9yDdd0dN0DiwHAts_h4Gme7b06aqIVJlATA8kH1JA CYJ_iVNMVw_Eej3YL61CX7kEueDR4Lsr6WyAV0s1S6_c__lYDhskxNlmq3Kp UFWD87lpuKAMcGhpZhDphkW7slRpBbUsiAxfkQdWDpbX37cFsM1wnQyP55SX vzq2VJLquVdanJ9X7mrisRA-- Original-Received: from [71.130.216.67] by web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:09:54 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.331698 In-Reply-To: <87ty4cgt65.fsf@netris.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 98.139.52.223 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:13254 Archived-At: > From: Mark H Weaver =0A=0A> What is the advantage of incl= uding our own little read-only filesystem,=0A> when every OS already provid= es this functionality?=A0 Is it really=0A> significantly easier to install = 3 files than to install 300?=0A> =0A> Admittedly, I can see how it might ma= ke a psychological difference.=0A> Somehow, people get the feeling that a p= ackage is huge and bloated when=0A> it contains a large directory structure= , whereas a single file of the=0A> same size (or even larger) seems signifi= cantly less obtrusive.=0A> =0A> However, I'm not sure that this psychologic= al difference is enough to=0A> justify the reduced flexibility of such an a= pproach.=0A> =0A> Is there an advantage that's not merely psychological?=0A= =0ANo, there is no advantage beyond the psychological for any system that= =0Auses the standard Unix-like filesystem hierarchy and has a decent=0Apack= age manager.=0A=0AThere are some theoretical corner cases where it could be= useful.=0ADon't know if these would ever occur in practice.=0A- Systems th= at don't use a Unix-like filesystem heirarchy=0A- Programs that are distrib= uted in a folder whose root location=0A=A0 can change=0A- Programs that use= Guile as an extension but want to limit its=0A=A0 library for some reason.= =0A=0AIt is all branding, or marketing, I guess.=A0 And fun, of course. I t= hought=0Athat, as a hack, it would be fun to try.=0A=0ARegards,=0A=0AMike