From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: nalaginrut Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: on the importance of names (was: proposal: enhance and rename guile-tools) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:15:22 +0800 Organization: HFG Message-ID: <1301490922.2690.6.camel@Renee-desktop> References: <87ipvdqt69.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: NalaGinrut@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301490980 27209 80.91.229.12 (30 Mar 2011 13:16:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ludovic =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?= , guile-devel@gnu.org To: Andy Wingo Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 30 15:16:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4vFT-0007vR-KS for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:15:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44498 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q4vFS-0000aD-TV for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:15:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46571 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q4vFO-0000VT-Hd for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:15:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4vFM-0004Od-P5 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:15:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.213.41]:54788) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4vFG-0004Lu-Nt; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:15:34 -0400 Original-Received: by yws5 with SMTP id 5so594508yws.0 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 06:15:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to :references:content-type:organization:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yXFaselQmOsn0KVD2bAYsvzB1LnSRdKWlMlIT/ToQqw=; b=BKWMNBZXIoYF8avaL9RyHXd711M77aTzfKu4vOWTIWE9QZ8xDNkh8Y7s1d1LaFZiG7 oSeb6czfJNQjokI0K2LkPFoQtPzGLMKpS00z0bxfA8Eitoqtn13PBHlCQZcOirrIO75B lNDBt0CEis2nXd7HaStlyN2bSgRH1bJ1o1DAI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type :organization:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=FKsbKKLFyTDt3zv95qmSzFG4EUxtuaNw0jdtIMU1T/SBF/wV9MfY6lyOKd6KjYd64s niiCF/0KCYP/dvydBJIPFaWmAWFWMUC5T+atnfCdmTQ5aYB3spV6mFR3Rhn5V2vuWUrU j7QOmdfeVoOVihW3v3YTGZ0ZT3KDzP5YU/Jvk= Original-Received: by 10.236.189.1 with SMTP id b1mr1593519yhn.206.1301490933382; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 06:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.100.100] ([183.15.165.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u33sm32692yhn.60.2011.03.30.06.15.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 30 Mar 2011 06:15:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.213.41 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:12085 Archived-At: > Howdy, > > On Mon 21 Mar 2011 00:16, ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > > > Andy Wingo writes: > > > >> "Guido, compile my-file.scm." > > > > Is the pun[*] intended? :-) > > OK, point taken. Too bad though! > > I have another proposal, but first I want to elaborate on why I think > guile-tools is a silly name. > > First of all it's not a good noun. I don't know how to capitalize it, > for example. Guile-Tools ? Too camel-casey. Guile-tools ? It's long > and slanted, like a boat launching ramp. guile-tools ? But then it > doesn't look like the start of a sentence. > > Also, how do you feel when you say "guile-tools compile foo.scm" ? I > kinda feel like a tool! Its clunkiness makes me feel clunky. Not good! > > These difficulties have real repercussions. A clunky name leads us to > avoid mentioning the thing, which isn't good either for the tool itself > or for peoples' awareness of the tool. > > Names are important, is what I'm saying. > > So! My new proposal is "guild". > > guild update > guild compile foo.scm > guild install fmt > My girl friend think "guile-tool" could be abbreviate to "guil+t"=guilt...just joking, I don't think that's a proper name...hope not enraging somebody. :-) -- GNU Powered it GPL Protected it GOD Blessed it HFG - NalaGinrut --hacker key-- v4sw7CUSMhw6ln6pr8OSFck4ma9u8MLSOFw3WDXGm7g/l8Li6e7t4TNGSb8AGORTDLMen6g6RASZOGCHPa28s1MIr4p-x hackerkey.com ---end key---