From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Maxime Devos Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Fwd: [Patch] definitions in when, unless, do as well as in cond- and case-clauses Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2022 18:36:33 +0100 Message-ID: <0a4b558d2621ae9b0e256b869c670dfd2c42bcbc.camel@telenet.be> References: <7f58438c-f2fb-49b6-b7b0-22054fde6277@www.fastmail.com> <38a7683ab39f412cd6f5b137d2f6ebd6f5410c5e.camel@telenet.be> <8db379b94c9d724c833478db7e6e8a6a4f379f69.camel@telenet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-nb+j+x//pS+1gV50Exm1" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17805"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Evolution 3.38.3-1 Cc: guile-devel To: Stefan Israelsson Tampe Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 05 18:36:50 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nGOzS-0004Rk-CL for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2022 18:36:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40236 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nGOzQ-00009K-Kn for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2022 12:36:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50330) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nGOzG-00008x-3z for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2022 12:36:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a02:1800:120:4::f00:15] (port=39038 helo=andre.telenet-ops.be) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nGOzE-0006Aq-GQ for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2022 12:36:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [172.20.10.5] ([213.251.108.188]) by andre.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id rVcZ2600F43vTVR01Vcadq; Sat, 05 Feb 2022 18:36:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telenet.be; s=r22; t=1644082594; bh=zj/f+Wu1bYZ/bx0CJZPEDrSM7JbEOgYA06epnxo19Qo=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=V7JoH06eMy63/QX21pFNwrCiWVOXAnF35Biu8FhW5nl9QF7El6OG7ZCciqFr74WD3 GMs5mSaD2S2ct9QfgQNwtVoTV4bIibhshzfZ6VqcU4joujqSkN0JkkxU95etdSIWyA 7g8fgQ9naHXmE6BOIiqoTM5YX4LIKdvmDP9M3EzqBoXy4ZVqkCMoR2J8oVGvKRlJIO uJoOM2N/JzGGEOWXl47VGIGXF6HEto2InnS8S2XqyrSP4jO/Rs0IAKgtunB3ZFriAG t2E3nGOgfQrcCnfEwRmVwZRxq86rNxXqrhP2X03JXtUKCTEVZQjO2/iFZzTwtFraeP ysa057ko5LcZQ== X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a02:1800:120:4::f00:15 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a02:1800:120:4::f00:15; envelope-from=maximedevos@telenet.be; helo=andre.telenet-ops.be X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:21073 Archived-At: --=-nb+j+x//pS+1gV50Exm1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan Israelsson Tampe schreef op za 05-02-2022 om 18:31 [+0100]: > Hmm this=C2=A0was wrong, I mean >=20 > For conditional variables we have a default begin. So then why on > earth do you not have an implicit let?, Just laziness? Do you mean Guile in general, or the particular example I gave? Also, I don't know what you mean with =E2=80=98for conditional variables we have a default begin=E2=80=99 -- what's a =E2=80=98default begin=E2=80=99 h= ere, and also Guile doesn't (currently) have conditional variables. > There should=C2=A0 be a good reason or? this is a pretty fundamental > change that I support=C2=A0but then we should not be lazy not trying to > understand the design choices=C2=A0of the old beards. I think the thread of the following message is relevant, though I've only just started reading it. 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