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[109.90.125.150]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k33sm2561633wms.21.2021.12.16.13.15.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 16 Dec 2021 13:15:15 -0800 (PST) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <8735muxj7c.fsf@gnu.org> X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a00:1450:4864:20::32a (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::32a; envelope-from=taylan.kammer@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x32a.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.034, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:21006 Archived-At: On 15.12.2021 11:20, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > > While Andy focuses on major improvements to the compiler and VM with a > long-term vision, I think it would be great to also have people on the > maintainer team focusing on more day-to-day operations: incremental > improvements, bug fixes, etc. I think we’re lucky that there’ve been a > number of talented contributors chiming in over the last couple of > years; let’s take advantage of this, at last! > Sounds like a good idea. Andy obviously does amazing work and I'm sure I'm not the only one who's grateful for your contributions as well :-) but having even some small patches for obvious bugfixes sit around for months is a bit disheartening. I won't apply because I don't feel like I'd be up to the task on a technical level (my C skills in particular suck, my knowledge of Guile internals is also quite limited) and I have way too many unfinished projects plus a somewhat stressful 40h/week job... But I would definitely like to contribute some small patches every now and then if I know I'll get feedback / have them applied. -- Taylan