From: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar@free-expression.org>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: goops and memoization
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:17:36 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <02120312173604.12810@locke.free-expression.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xy7lm37y1l7.fsf@linnaeus.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
On Tuesday 03 December 2002 02:59, Mikael Djurfeldt wrote:
> Well, actually we have a guarantee that when we re-memoize, 'lambda,
> 'if etc are bound to exactly the same thing as when the procedure was
> originally memoized. This is because the lexical environment of the
> method is used when re-memoizing.
Either define-syntax or define can change the meaning of
lambda in the global environment. It will use the same binding,
true, but that's not the same thing.
> Note that for method optimization to work, unmemoization *must* be
> faithful to the semantics of the procedure. The optimizer must be
> able to lookup the true binding of every identifier.
The memoizer is not an optimizer. It merely expands macros
into a constant core representation. I fail to understand the problem.
The internal constants are precisely what you want - a representation
of core scheme (plus some things like "and" and "or" that are
syntactic sugar but implemented for speed). They're not pointers
into a run-time symbol table, but so what? It's easy to translate
them to symbols for printing purposes.
> Thus, we have the requirement that memoization is semantically 100%
> reversible. Then one might of course argue that that is a too strict
> requirement.
Requiring reversibility of arbitrary macro expansions is pretty
close to nuts.
> The original reason for the choice to work on Scheme code instead of
> on the memoized representation was that it was simpler and could be
> handled on the Scheme level, and could be made to work quickly.
If you do it at the scheme level, sure. But if you're doing it at the
C level you have to use some system-specific representation anyway.
So what's wrong with constants?
Lynn
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[not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10212011757340.18607-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-12-01 18:00 ` goops and memoization Neil Jerram
2002-12-02 8:45 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-12-02 9:14 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-12-03 0:13 ` Lynn Winebarger
2002-12-03 7:59 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-12-03 8:38 ` Tom Lord
2002-12-04 2:25 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-12-04 2:49 ` Tom Lord
2002-12-03 17:17 ` Lynn Winebarger [this message]
2002-12-04 2:41 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
[not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10212021836430.21423-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-12-04 2:19 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
[not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10212021650410.21423-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-12-04 1:53 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-12-04 2:38 ` Tom Lord
2002-12-04 2:56 ` Rob Browning
2002-11-16 13:41 Dirk Herrmann
2002-11-17 10:56 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-20 18:11 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-11-21 3:11 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-21 3:28 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-21 23:50 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-22 1:08 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-22 1:13 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-24 9:41 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-24 16:32 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-21 20:31 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-22 0:49 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-29 22:48 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-29 23:31 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-21 20:36 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-24 16:42 ` Dirk Herrmann
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