From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Wingo Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.bugs Subject: Re: Manual bug, old manuals. Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:26:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20110325195252.302150@gmx.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301174808 24737 80.91.229.12 (26 Mar 2011 21:26:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 21:26:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-guile@gnu.org To: "Anton Vidovic" Original-X-From: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 26 22:26:42 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-bugs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3b0L-0007Zi-Sh for guile-bugs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:26:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42850 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q3b0L-0006bB-A1 for guile-bugs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:26:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40485 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q3b0D-0006aW-0S for bug-guile@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:26:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3b0B-0001aY-Qn for bug-guile@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:26:32 -0400 Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com ([64.74.157.62]:50018 helo=sasl.smtp.pobox.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3b0B-0001aU-OF for bug-guile@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:26:31 -0400 Original-Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0365F4C07; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:28:14 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=18uXQzjVYPB7F1GpbdV7dGKN1oo=; b=xykFoS CvoEyWZOK435xgWpm0vL/DqlLNogp3pYnFt2G0u758SlhvPNCu6NQVmMtX07i5y9 LSq+T8H7adILAe8LQP4egYsU+hUrbe5OGZ4x11DjNVvy3Dx0HXhv2lDprVQufdvl gXxsNGcbnCqQrMLaTqewYHF1yewDDvQ82NvJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=ljsADW/IGqUtouSX7wcJROUSqyBYobV2 nURmW1dfcmzm519yk5NZiFsw+G6KMhhEQniTjc1QauU0vB3VN8jjTA1V8Kj8AZNj MOn82Zq4J9XWwX7tszHPJY7fOGQKArR7tpsKrZJqjCu6XpF/fBpqCxMNnWPYo0jY i8KGtvfzlx8= Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34284C06; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from unquote.localdomain (unknown [90.164.198.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 545EA4C05; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:28:09 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20110325195252.302150@gmx.net> (Anton Vidovic's message of "Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:52:52 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: F3B237E4-57EF-11E0-A267-E8AB60295C12-02397024!a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 64.74.157.62 X-BeenThere: bug-guile@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.bugs:5377 Archived-At: On Fri 25 Mar 2011 20:52, "Anton Vidovic" writes: > In the 2.0 manual, probably in 1.8 and 1.6 also, in section 2.4 "Writing > guile extensions", the function "scm_num2dbl" is used in the code > example. This function was, as I could find out, deprecated in 1.4 and > removed in 1.6. This has been fixed in git. I updated the 2.0 docs on the site. > Second, I would ask you to put back the 1.8 manual on > > http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/docs/docs.html. Done. I also added a 2.0 link, as opposed to master. > Also I would ask you to also put back the link to the old guile > tutorial, before it was rewritten to use gnuplot. > > http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/docs/guile-tut/tutorial.html > > gnuplot is not a part of the gnu project, and it is not GPL. It's > licence is also bordering on non-free, since distribution of modified > versions is not permitted, modifications can only be distributed as > separate patches. > > I think that it is not OK for a core gnu project to rely on non-GNU, > non-GPL and borderline non-free software for a beginners tutorial, no > matter how convenient gnuplot might be. I agree that this is a problem. However I think it is a bad idea to resuscitate the old one; it uses interfaces that have been removed and/or deprecated. How should we move forward here? > The last point, Mike Gran has recently anounced on the dev list that he > will remove his "Guile book", which is currently linked on > > http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/docs/docs.html > > Could you please copy the book and make it available directly on the > Guile website, for future references? It's really out of date, but I did tar up a snapshot (including SGML source (!)) and throw it up at http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/archive/lonelycactus-guilebook.tar.gz. I do not want to host the unpacked version on www.gnu.org though, as it is for 1.6, and incomplete. Regards, Andy -- http://wingolog.org/