From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Aberg Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.bugs,gmane.comp.gnu.libtool.bugs Subject: Re: Mac OS X .dylib not working Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 16:21:27 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20100202064208.GC5651@gmx.de> <657AF3C8-764A-4DDE-918F-F1D97DA8E8EC@math.su.se> <359C630D-FEA1-4422-91B5-6FB0DFD6941D@raeburn.org> <675379A5-A6C5-4331-B82B-1E1F975C359A@math.su.se> <470370CA-2B7D-49F3-B48C-70B0731757F9@math.su.se> <20100204134916.GB23972@tw.local> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1265296921 8330 80.91.229.12 (4 Feb 2010 15:22:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 15:22:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-guile@gnu.org, Ken Raeburn , bug-libtool@gnu.org, Bob Friesenhahn To: Peter O'Gorman Original-X-From: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 04 16:21:57 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-bugs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nd3Wk-0003dE-8t for guile-bugs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:21:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59945 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nd3Wj-0008MV-IO for guile-bugs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:21:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nd3Wb-0008H6-C6 for bug-guile@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:21:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59490 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nd3Wa-0008Fv-QI for bug-guile@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:21:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nd3WW-0000wj-LD for bug-guile@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:21:44 -0500 Original-Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.83]:61276) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nd3WW-0000wM-2b; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:21:40 -0500 Original-Received: from h131n2-fre-d2.ias.bredband.telia.com (78.72.157.131) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.140.3) (authenticated as u26619134) id 4B5C668600190AB5; Thu, 4 Feb 2010 16:21:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20100204134916.GB23972@tw.local> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: bug-guile@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.bugs:4498 gmane.comp.gnu.libtool.bugs:7250 Archived-At: On 4 Feb 2010, at 14:49, Peter O'Gorman wrote: > What does otool -L > /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/guile say? Which > libltdl.7.dylib does it list? See below. They differ: libltdl.7.dylib current versions 10.0.0 and 10.1.0. > If you run lilypond with DYLD_PRINT_LIBRARIES=1 set in the environment > does more than one copy of libltdl.7.dylib get loaded? It just tries to load the one in /usr/local/lib/, which causes segmentation fault. > This sounds like a packaging bug to me though, ... Part if it, at least. There is no point searching for incompatible libraries. > ...you can probably fix it > with use of install_name_tool(1). I can pass it on - I'm not a LilyPond developer. > As for your earlier questions about .so and .dylib - On Mac OS X 10.0 > and earlier, there was no way to load MH_DYLIB type files (usually > .dylib extensions) at runtime. API was introduced to allow this in > 10.1, > and dlopen() was added in 10.3, rewritten in 10.4 and dlclose() > actually > removes the image in 10.5, prior to that only files of MH_BUNDLE type > could be unloaded. > > When libtool support for Mac OS X was added, there was no way to load > .dylib files, not much software had any knowledge of Mac OS X, and > quite > a lot of things had hardcoded ".so" when loading files at runtime, > so to > accomodate this, .so was chosen as the extension when creating > loadable > modules (MH_BUNDLE) and .dylib when creating MH_DYLIB. Changing > this now would cause far too many problems. Not really: 10.4 and earlier are obsolete, and 10.5 is becoming. On 10.5, just ordinary load is fine. So just add .dylib to the list of searches. > So, long story short, ltld looks for ".so" because that is the > extension > used for loadable modules. Well, that is not a part of the UNIX standard, and therefore not POSIX, which is nowadays a subset. > Guile wants to use its loadable modules as > input to ld, this is not portable to ancient Mac OS X, nor ancient Net > BSD, and possibly other systems, however it seems unlikly to be a > major > issue. > > I think that covers most of the thread, but I admit to now reading all > of it. If it can't load .dylib files, which now is the normal use, that is a bit confusing. Hans ---- # otool -L /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/guile /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/guile: @executable_path/../lib//libguile.17.dylib (compatibility version 21.0.0, current version 21.1.0) @executable_path/../lib//libintl.8.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.0.0) /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib (compatibility version 5.0.0, current version 5.0.0) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 71.1.3) @executable_path/../lib//libgmp.3.dylib (compatibility version 8.0.0, current version 8.1.0) @executable_path/../lib//libltdl.7.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current version 10.0.0) /usr/lib/libmx.A.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 47.1.0) # otool -L /usr/local/bin/guile /usr/local/bin/guile: /usr/local/lib/libguile.17.dylib (compatibility version 21.0.0, current version 21.1.0) /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current version 7.0.0) /usr/local/lib/libintl.8.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.2.0) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 111.1.4) /usr/local/lib/libgmp.3.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.0.0) /usr/local/lib/libltdl.7.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current version 10.1.0) /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0) ---- $ lilypond empty.ly dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../ lib//libintl.8.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../ lib//libguile.17.dylib dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../ lib//libgmp.3.dylib dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../ lib//libpangoft2-1.0.0.dylib dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../ lib//libpango-1.0.0.dylib dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../ lib//libfreetype.6.dylib dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../ lib//libfontconfig.1.dylib dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../ lib//libgobject-2.0.0.dylib dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../ lib//libgmodule-2.0.0.dylib dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../ lib//libglib-2.0.0.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libmx.A.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/ Versions/A/CoreFoundation dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libauto.dylib dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../ lib//libltdl.7.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib dyld: loaded: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../ lib//libexpat.1.dylib dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/ Carbon dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/CarbonSound.framework/Versions/A/CarbonSound dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/Help.framework/Versions/A/Help dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/HTMLRendering.framework/Versions/A/HTMLRendering dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/Ink.framework/Versions/A/Ink dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/NavigationServices.framework/Versions/A/NavigationServices dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/ Versions/A/ApplicationServices dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/ Versions/A/CoreServices dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreAudio.framework/Versions/ A/CoreAudio dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Metadata dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/OSServices dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/SearchKit.framework/Versions/A/SearchKit dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/DictionaryServices.framework/Versions/A/ DictionaryServices dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/IOKit.framework/Versions/A/ IOKit dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/DiskArbitration.framework/ Versions/A/DiskArbitration dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libbsm.dylib dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/ Security dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/SystemConfiguration.framework/ Versions/A/SystemConfiguration dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libsqlite3.0.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libresolv.9.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libxml2.2.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libxslt.1.dylib dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/ C/Foundation dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/ 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/System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/ A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libLAPACK.dylib dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/ libJPEG.dylib dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/ libTIFF.dylib dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/ libGIF.dylib dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/ libPng.dylib dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/ libRadiance.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libcups.2.dylib dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Kerberos.framework/Versions/A/ Kerberos dyld: loaded: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreUI.framework/ Versions/A/CoreUI dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/QuartzCore.framework/Versions/ A/QuartzCore dyld: loaded: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/DesktopServicesPriv dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/ OpenGL dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/ Libraries/libGLImage.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libffi.dylib dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreVideo.framework/Versions/ A/CoreVideo dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/ Libraries/libGLU.dylib dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/ Libraries/libGL.dylib dyld: loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/ Libraries/libGLProgrammability.dylib dyld: loaded: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ InstallServer.framework/Versions/A/InstallServer GNU LilyPond 2.13.7 dyld: loaded: /usr/local/lib/libguile-srfi-srfi-1-v-3.3.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/local/lib/libguile.17.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/local/lib/libintl.8.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/local/lib/libgmp.3.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/local/lib/libltdl.7.dylib Segmentation fault ----