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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Vielen Dank, mein Herr. I was tremendously honored, and still am, to have been a tiny part of Guile. I hope to contribute more in small ways, time permitting. I'm delighted to see the progress made over the years, and I hope the best for the team. On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 5:11 PM Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > > Lee Thomas writes: > > > Hi. https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Early-Days.html > isn't correct where in the fourth paragraph it says "Jim Blandy suggested= a > > new name for GEL". It was actually me, as documented in the second > paragraph here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Guile#History Due to > the Tcl > > Wars some of the name suggestions were becoming offensive, especially t= o > Dr. Ousterhout, so I thought I would suggest something more positive. To > > my astonishment, Tom Lord liked it and used it, over the objections of > others. > > > > I'm dying of cancer so soon it won't matter > > I=E2=80=99m sorry to hear that. Thank you for taking up this even now! An= d thank > you for taking part in Guile. > > I wish you lots of strength. > > > , and I was never a part of Guile's inner circle anyway, so this isn't = a > truly important issue for me. If it would > > ruffle political feathers to take credit from Jim then I'm fine with > leaving it as is, but I do feel responsibility to simply report it here - > especially before > > someone else does and asks why the manual and Wikipedia don't match. > > I created a patch that does the change and references it. From the > history it looks like this part has been written in one go back then and > did not change, so it possibly was just a mis-remembering. > > The patch: > > > Best wishes, > Arne > -- > Unpolitisch sein > hei=C3=9Ft politisch sein, > ohne es zu merken. > draketo.de > --000000000000c3bceb05e730d582 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Vielen Dank, mein Herr. I was tremendously honored, and st= ill am, to have been a tiny part of Guile. I hope to contribute more in sma= ll ways, time permitting. I'm delighted to see the progress made over t= he years, and I hope the best for the team.

On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 5:11= PM Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_b= ab@web.de> wrote:

Lee Thomas <l= eet22303be@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi. https://www.gnu.org/soft= ware/guile/manual/html_node/Early-Days.html isn't correct where in = the fourth paragraph it says "Jim Blandy suggested a
> new name for GEL". It was actually me, as documented in the secon= d paragraph here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_G= uile#History=C2=A0 Due to the Tcl
> Wars some of the name suggestions were becoming offensive, especially = to Dr. Ousterhout, so I thought I would suggest something more positive. To=
> my astonishment, Tom Lord liked it and used it, over the objections of= others.
>
> I'm dying of cancer so soon it won't matter

I=E2=80=99m sorry to hear that. Thank you for taking up this even now! And = thank
you for taking part in Guile.

I wish you lots of strength.

> , and I was never a part of Guile's inner circle anyway, so this i= sn't a truly important issue for me. If it would
> ruffle political feathers to take credit from Jim then I'm fine wi= th leaving it as is, but I do feel responsibility to simply report it here = - especially before
> someone else does and asks why the manual and Wikipedia don't matc= h.

I created a patch that does the change and references it. From the
history it looks like this part has been written in one go back then and did not change, so it possibly was just a mis-remembering.

The patch:


Best wishes,
Arne
--
Unpolitisch sein
hei=C3=9Ft politisch sein,
ohne es zu merken.
draketo.= de
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