From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mark Harig Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.bugs Subject: Re: Typos in the manual Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:48:24 -0500 Message-ID: <8CD9B68D2F170D1-714-CAC@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> References: <20110208202529.GD16805@gmx.de> <874o88kbbs.fsf@ossau.uklinux.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1297802944 607 80.91.229.12 (15 Feb 2011 20:49:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ralf.Wildenhues@gmx.de, neil@ossau.uklinux.net To: bug-guile@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 15 21:48:59 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-bugs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PpRpT-0007dj-NI for guile-bugs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:48:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45483 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PpRpT-0001hb-DB for guile-bugs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:48:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33563 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PpRpN-0001hR-WD for bug-guile@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:48:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PpRpM-00043d-QI for bug-guile@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:48:53 -0500 Original-Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.42]:37997) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PpRpM-00043Z-Mj for bug-guile@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:48:52 -0500 Original-Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p1FKmZcN007528; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:48:35 -0500 Original-Received: from idirectscm@aim.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id 7.be5.7d2ce3d1 (37529); Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:48:31 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from smtprly-dc01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-dc01.mx.aol.com [205.188.170.1]) by cia-mb01.mx.aol.com (v129.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB012-d1c14d5ae6998f; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:48:26 -0500 Original-Received: from webmail-d099 (webmail-d099.sim.aol.com [205.188.255.20]) by smtprly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v129.8) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDC012-d1c14d5ae6998f; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:48:25 -0500 X-MB-Message-Type: User Original-Received: from 98.185.24.91 by webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com (205.188.255.20) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:48:24 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 98.185.24.91 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-Mailer: AIM WebMail 33222-STANDARD In-Reply-To: <874o88kbbs.fsf@ossau.uklinux.net> X-AOL-SENDER: idirectscm@aim.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 64.12.206.42 X-BeenThere: bug-guile@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.bugs:5140 Archived-At: > > > - Some abbreviations are spelt creatively. The Latin 'id est' is > > usually abbreviated 'i.e.' without an intervening space, and for=20 good > > spacing you either need a comma right afterwards, or '@:'. Same=20 with > > 'e.g.'. Find lots of instances with: > > git grep '\<[Ii][. ]*e\.[^,@]' > > > > My personal preference is to use a comma when what follows is=20 long or > > grammatically a full sentence, and '@:' otherwise. (info texinfo=20 "Not > > Ending a Sentence"). > > Agreed. Both "i.e." and "e.g." should always be followed by a comma. (The previous sentence is not self-contradictory because in these instances, the terms are quoted rather than used.) I am not able to think of an example where this rule should not be applied, even though on the internet it is commonly not followed. They should always be=20 preceded by a comma when they do not start a sentence, an interjection, or a parenthetical phrase. Likewise, "etc." should always be preceded by a comma unless a sentence is constructed that starts with "etc."