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From: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: 24102@debbugs.gnu.org, Glenn Michaels <gmichaels@Safe-mail.net>
Subject: bug#24102: Use guile variable objects as SRFI-111 boxes.
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 11:03:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wpixjoom.fsf@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pop6uk9r.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Thu, 18 Aug 2016 12:14:24 -0400")

On Thu 18 Aug 2016 18:14, Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> writes:

> As I wrote above, the current guile compiler can already do this kind of
> type inference, although it does not currently do this for boxes.
> we can already anticipate having native code generation in the
> next couple of years, and we must keep boxes semantically simple so that
> our future compiler will be able to generate good code for this very
> important fundamental type.

For what it's worth, I don't see the optimization argument as weighing
very heavily on this discussion.  I would rather have fewer fundamental
data types rather than more, in the next two years or so.  I see the
mid-term result here being that SRFI-111 boxes are much slower than
variables.

The highest performance compilation tier we can imagine would include
adaptive optimization, and when it runs you can know that the variables
that a bit of code uses are bound or not.  Also in that case we can
reasonably make any call to variable-unset! deoptimize any code that
uses variables, forcing it to reoptimize later.  Since variable-unset!
is quite rare this is no big deal I think.

Andy





  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-31  9:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-29  9:21 bug#24102: Use guile variable objects as SRFI-111 boxes Glenn Michaels
2016-08-02 10:25 ` Glenn Michaels
2016-08-04 20:59   ` Andy Wingo
2016-08-05  4:31 ` Mark H Weaver
2016-08-05  4:37   ` Mark H Weaver
2016-08-18 13:07 ` Glenn Michaels
2016-08-18 16:14   ` Mark H Weaver
2016-08-31  9:03     ` Andy Wingo [this message]
2017-03-01  8:51       ` Andy Wingo

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