From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?iso-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel,gmane.lisp.guile.bugs Subject: Re: UTF-8 regression in guile 1.9.5 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:26:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87vdf7hsd3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3ae3aa420912061043y12a33f27ia3d2c298812ee358@mail.gmail.com> <437145.81403.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3ae3aa420912061133r3d2fb5b4w2b3ea31f3d05e701@mail.gmail.com> <600066.28581.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3ae3aa420912061243nfb7f54cv1fd14950849b67fe@mail.gmail.com> <188729.99650.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <67395.2223.qm@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <87ocl0bw3m.fsf@gnu.org> <87iqb7o99m.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263335279 30822 80.91.229.12 (12 Jan 2010 22:27:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-guile@gnu.org, guile-devel@gnu.org To: Andy Wingo Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 12 23:27:52 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NUpCm-00021W-Dm for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:27:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56855 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NUpCn-0006IQ-1G for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:27:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NUpCf-0006I1-Dt for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:27:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NUpCa-0006Hh-Bl for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:27:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39974 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NUpCa-0006He-6G; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:27:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr ([192.134.164.83]:42681) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NUpCZ-0002ag-NM; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:27:04 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,264,1262559600"; d="scan'208";a="41320786" Original-Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr (HELO nixey) ([80.67.176.83]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA; 12 Jan 2010 23:26:51 +0100 X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 23 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Niv=F4se?= an 218 de la =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Andy Wingo's message of "Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:36:51 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:9876 gmane.lisp.guile.bugs:4458 Archived-At: Hello, Andy Wingo writes: > On Tue 12 Jan 2010 12:25, ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > >> Andy Wingo writes: >> >>> perhaps we should setlocale in the `guile' binary (but not by default >>> when used by a library). >> >> We could, but it would break programs that have been assuming the =E2=80= =98C=E2=80=99 >> locale, e.g., when parsing of printing data, etc... > > But surely it is the Right Thing; Perhaps, I don=E2=80=99t know. Apparently Perl does that, for instance. W= hat do others do? Is there no real reason for POSIX to be this way, other than backward compatibility? > is there no way to make a transition to having it there by default? Not that I can think of. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.