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[72.10.132.224]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bq12-20020a05622a1c0c00b00419732075b4sm247953qtb.84.2023.12.13.05.48.08 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 13 Dec 2023 05:48:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <526928549.432092.1702445977912@mail.yahoo.com> (Mike Gran's message of "Wed, 13 Dec 2023 05:39:37 +0000 (UTC)") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guile@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language" <bug-guile.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/bug-guile>, <mailto:bug-guile-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-guile> List-Post: <mailto:bug-guile@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:bug-guile-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-guile>, <mailto:bug-guile-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.bugs:10735 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.bugs/10735> Hi Mike, Mike Gran <spk121@yahoo.com> writes: > On Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 12:51:11 PM PST, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.= cournoyer@gmail.com> wrote:=20 >>> This confirms my hunch that there is no issue with the license. > >>That's great, but... why is it not a problem?=C2=A0 :-) > >>When we find out, we should add an explanation next to the license text, >>why it's deemed alright. > > Maxim, > This is not meant to be plain English, but rather, it is American Legal N= onsense English. > > If you changed the text to "may be used for any purpose: lawful or unlawf= ul", then, in USA > contract/copyright law, the contract is unenforceable because it is illeg= al.=C2=A0 It is not possible > to be party to an unenforceable contract. If the receiver of the software= can't be a party > to the contract because it is unenforceable, then effectively > the software can't be open sourced by that copyright statement. Do I understand correctly that any copyright license comes with an implicit "lawful" condition so as to be considered valid, per the law of USA at least? And that making this explicit is thus not considered a restriction on the use? --=20 Thanks, Maxim