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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: rain1@openmailbox.org, 20087@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#20087: gensym
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:45:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r3f04631.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87twjxqdtq.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:55:13 -0400")

Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> skribis:

> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
>
>> Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> skribis:
>>
>>> If we cannot eliminate the possibility of collisions, and we cannot
>>> avoid intentional collisions, what can we do?  I think the best we can
>>> hope for is to significantly reduce the probability of _unintentional_
>>> collisions, perhaps by starting the gensym counter at a large number.
>>
>> I’m not sure if that would help.
>>
>> One thing that could help avoid unintentional collisions is to
>> automatically add whitespace before the number, such that:
>>
>>   (gensym "x") => #{x 123}#
>
> I think this is a good idea.
>
>>> The other thing we can do is to clearly document these inherent problems
>>> with gensym, so that they will not be misused for jobs for which they
>>> are not appropriate.
>>
>> I think we should add a sentence to that effect in the manual.
>
> It turns out the manual already has the following text in the ‘gensym’
> entry, which I think is sufficient.
>
>      The symbols generated by ‘gensym’ are _likely_ to be unique, since
>   their names begin with a space and it is only otherwise possible to
>   generate such symbols if a programmer goes out of their way to do so.
>   Uniqueness can be guaranteed by instead using uninterned symbols
>   (*noteSymbol Uninterned::), though they can’t be usefully written out
>   and read back in.
>
> What do you think?

Oh indeed, I guess I had overlooked that.

Ludo’.





  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-24  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-11 17:15 bug#20087: 'gensym' is not guaranteed to return a fresh symbol Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-18 17:03 ` bug#20087: gensym rain1
2016-03-22  5:24   ` Mark H Weaver
2016-03-22  7:58     ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-23 17:55       ` Mark H Weaver
2016-03-24  8:45         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2016-06-23 13:48           ` Andy Wingo
2016-06-23 14:13             ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-06-23 16:05               ` Andy Wingo
2016-03-22 11:21     ` rain1
2016-03-22 18:06       ` Mark H Weaver

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