From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.bugs Subject: bug#19883: Correction for backtrace Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:25:22 +0100 Message-ID: <87lhjkbhlp.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87twyln70f.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <873865n2rr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87twy91vtc.fsf@gnu.org> <878ufld1iw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k2z4dhx7.fsf@gnu.org> <874mq8dfb3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fv9sahxx.fsf@gnu.org> <87wq34bsh7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wq34zghp.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1424978781 6526 80.91.229.3 (26 Feb 2015 19:26:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:26:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19883@debbugs.gnu.org To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Original-X-From: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 26 20:26:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-bugs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YR44Y-0001ve-Ie for guile-bugs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:26:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60474 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YR44X-000274-V7 for guile-bugs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:26:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47137) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YR44R-00026Y-Nl for bug-guile@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:26:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YR44Q-00079n-Fy for bug-guile@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:26:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55355) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YR44Q-00079b-C3 for bug-guile@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:26:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YR44P-0003mc-RW for bug-guile@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:26:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: David Kastrup Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guile@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19883 X-GNU-PR-Package: guile X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19883-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19883.142497872714495 (code B ref 19883); Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:26:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19883) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Feb 2015 19:25:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58953 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YR43q-0003lj-Ba for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:25:26 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:60202 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YR43o-0003lb-HV for 19883@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:25:25 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39276 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YR43n-0008Gr-Df; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:25:23 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F18DFE0575; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:25:22 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87wq34zghp.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?="'s message of "Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:15:30 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-guile@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.bugs:7732 Archived-At: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > David Kastrup skribis: > >> Shrug. I'll put a link to this bug report to a suitable LilyPond issue. > > Thank you. Though I want other LilyPond developers to get involved, and > I=E2=80=99m afraid it would be easy for them to just ignore a side bug re= port. > > It=E2=80=99s a vital task for LilyPond, it cannot be a one-person side-pr= oject > on the LilyPond side. Three years ago in August there was a meeting of developers at my house, a lot of information was passed around and in a concerted effort LilyPond-2.16.0 was released. Since then all developments would properly be labelled a one-person project or side-project. Now if you take a look at GUILE=C2=A02.1 development, in particular all commits that are _not_ merges from the 2.0 branch, you'll find that quite more than 90% have come from the same person. LilyPond development is quite more diverse, but the various changes in the last years have invariably been one-person projects. Of the three large GUILE-based applications Gnucash, TeXmacs, and LilyPond, the only successful migration to GUILEv2 so far has been Gnucash, and its integration with GUILE is much smaller than that of LilyPond. The one-person projects concerning finding and/or fixing language and compiler problems or restructuring the related code areas have been exclusively mine. That is not necessarily a good match since my productivity drops to near zero when I lose interest with a problem, and without anybody else keeping the ball rolling, it can easily stay there. But I have no resources I could call upon to change that. --=20 David Kastrup