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From: Marco Maggi <marco.maggi-ipsu@poste.it>
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: 16158@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#16158: psyntax: bug in bound-identifier=?
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:49:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d2kxfd69.fsf@governatore.luna> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bo0hfyq3.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Sun, 15 Dec 2013 19:04:04 -0500")

Mark H Weaver wrote:
> While reading psyntax.scm, I noticed that the definition of 'bound-id=?'
> does not match the definition in "Syntax Abstraction in Scheme" by
> Dybvig, Hieb, and Bruggeman.
>
> The paper states "Two identifiers that are bound-identifier=? are also
> free-identifier=?".

I think you are referring to this paragraph from the paper[1] (page 12):

    Two    identifiers   that    are   bound-identifier=?     are   also
    free-identifier=?,  but two  identifiers that  are free-identifier=?
    may not be bound-identifier=?.  An  identifier introduced by a macro
    transformer may refer to the same enclosing binding as an identifier
    not introduced by the transformer, but an introduced binding for one
    will not capture references to the other.

> The following expression shows that this is not the case in Guile 2.0:
>
>   (let* ((x 1) (s1 #'x)
>          (x 2) (s2 #'x))
>     (list (bound-identifier=? s1 s2)
>           (free-identifier=? s1 s2)))
>   => (#t #f)

  The expander in Ikarus/Vicare also returns this value.

> Racket reports (#f #f) for the same expression.

  Racket is different because its expander implements a variant of phase
separation; if the whole form is evaluated  at phase N, the "x" in "#'x"
should be searched  among the bindings at  phase N-1 (if any)  (I am not
authoritative  in  how Racket  works,  there  is always  something  that
escapes me).   Your code  works, but  when you actually  try to  use the
identifiers for something:

    #!r6rs
    (import (rnrs))
    (define-syntax doit
      (lambda (stx)
        (let* ((x 1) (s1 #'x)
               (x 2) (s2 #'x))
          #`(let ((#,s1 123))
              #,s2))))
    (doit)

$ plt-r6rs ~/var/tmp/proof.sps
/home/marco/var/tmp/proof.sps:7:23: x: identifier used out of context
  in: x
  context...:
   /opt/racket/5.3.5/lib/racket/collects/r6rs/run.rkt: [running body]

while the  same program  works fine in  Ikarus, Vicare,  Sagittarius and
Guile (Larceny's  opinion would  be interesting,  but I  do not  have it
installed).  IMHO this program should work for Racket, too, but maybe it
refuses to  run code that "looks  wrong" (indeed, usually, in  a correct
program we do not define identifiers this way).

  I dunno how  Guile's evolution of psyntax works, but  the two #'x must
be bound-identifier=? because the following result must stand:

    (define-syntax doit
      (lambda (stx)
        (let* ((x 1) (s1 #'x)
               (x 2) (s2 #'x))
          #`(let ((#,s1 123))
              #,s2))))

    (doit) => 123

  IMHO it  is an  error in  the paper.  Some  paragraphs from  the paper
preceding "the  one" have been recycled  in the R6RS document,  but this
one paragraph has not; maybe this means something.

HTH

[1] <http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~dyb/pubs/LaSC-5-4-pp295-326.pdf>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-16  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-16  0:04 bug#16158: psyntax: bug in bound-identifier=? Mark H Weaver
2013-12-16  0:11 ` Mark H Weaver
2013-12-16  7:49 ` Marco Maggi [this message]
2013-12-16 16:38   ` Mark H Weaver
2013-12-17  4:03   ` Mark H Weaver

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