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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
Cc: 11198@debbugs.gnu.org, guile-devel <guile-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: bug#11198: prefab structs in guile
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 00:14:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a9zdc0tc.fsf__31052.8893293396$1341526517$gmane$org@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ipe13lya.fsf@pobox.com> (Andy Wingo's message of "Fri, 06 Jul 2012 00:03:09 +0200")

Hi,

Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com> skribis:

> On Thu 05 Jul 2012 23:55, ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
>
>> So I’d be in the ‘define-serializable-struct’ camp, so to speak.
>
> That's a valid position to have in general.  I can also imagine cases in
> which you would choose other things.  It's a spectrum.

Yes, sure.  It can be convenient to have something that makes it easy to
serialize structs.  But given that prefabs have to be “built in”, and
that they look can-of-wormey to my demanding eye ;-), I’d be in favor of
anything built atop structs.

And actually, there’s (oop goops save), which is extensible and
everything.  :-)

Side note: while writing readers/writers by hand may look tedious, the
advantage is that it makes it easy to leave room for future extensions,
like allowing the reader to suitably map an old version of a serialized
struct to the new data structure.

>> Prefabs raise an number of interesting issues.  For instance, what’s the
>> meaning of #s(sprout bean #f 17) in a module where ‘sprout’ is unbound?
>
> Prefab structs are not modular.  It is the same as in a module where
> `sprout' is bound.  Reading #s(sprout bean #f 17) may create an RTD if
> needed, but it does not create any bindings.

OK.  So there can only be one ‘sprout’ prefab RTD in the whole process,
I guess.

>> types are compared by name.
>
> As the documentation clearly indicates :), prefab structs are indeed
> compared by name, though in a combination with other characteristics
> (number of fields, and more characteristics for racket).

Right.  Argh.

Thanks,
Ludo’.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-07-05 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-07 20:16 bug#11198: problems reading data with a "read-hash-extend" registered reader Klaus Stehle
2012-04-09 21:10 ` Ludovic Courtès
2012-04-11 19:07   ` Klaus Stehle
2012-04-11 19:33   ` Mark H Weaver
2012-04-11 20:34     ` Klaus Stehle
2012-04-22 13:43       ` Mark H Weaver
2012-04-22 18:01         ` Ludovic Courtès
2012-04-24  8:11           ` Andy Wingo
2012-04-24 11:24             ` Noah Lavine
2012-04-24 11:38               ` Noah Lavine
2012-04-24 16:22               ` Ludovic Courtès
2012-07-05  8:00 ` bug#11198: prefab structs in guile Andy Wingo
     [not found] ` <877gui7i3y.fsf@pobox.com>
2012-07-05 20:57   ` Ludovic Courtès
     [not found]   ` <87ipe2dizn.fsf@gnu.org>
2012-07-05 21:06     ` Andy Wingo
     [not found]     ` <878vex534f.fsf@pobox.com>
2012-07-05 21:55       ` Ludovic Courtès
     [not found]       ` <874npldga9.fsf@gnu.org>
2012-07-05 22:03         ` Andy Wingo
2012-07-05 22:06         ` Andy Wingo
     [not found]         ` <87ipe13lya.fsf@pobox.com>
2012-07-05 22:14           ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
     [not found]           ` <87a9zdc0tc.fsf@gnu.org>
2012-11-27 21:52             ` Ludovic Courtès

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