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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Josselin Poiret <dev@jpoiret.xyz>
Cc: 52835@debbugs.gnu.org, Timothy Sample <samplet@ngyro.com>
Subject: bug#52835: [PATCH 0/2] Fix spawning a child not setting standard fds properly
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 17:58:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a63bxvxh.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v8m2jb3c.fsf@jpoiret.xyz> (Josselin Poiret's message of "Fri,  23 Dec 2022 18:15:03 +0100")

Hi Josselin,

Josselin Poiret <dev@jpoiret.xyz> skribis:

> I've added a convenience module (ice-9 spawn) with a `spawn` procedure
> in it, which takes an optional argument list which defaults to just the
> executable, and optional environment variables as well as in, out and
> err ports.  I also think everything in (ice-9 popen) should be migrated
> on the next major release, as well as being re-implemented in terms of
> `spawn` purely, so that the change is immediately noticeable.

OK.

> We're reaching the bike-shedding time now, but IMHO having such a
> `spawn*` exposed to the user seems fine, it's a pretty simple "raw"
> interface with fdes, and there is a convenience `spawn` function that is
> nicer for users.

‘spawn*’ is expressive enough, but a procedure with 6 positional
arguments cannot be exposed as-is IMO.

One tiny thing that’s missing is a boolean to choose between
‘posix_spawn’ and ‘posix_spawnp’.

So we need either ‘spawn’ defined in Scheme as you did, or directly use
‘scm_c_bind_keyword_arguments’ right in ‘scm_spawn_process’ (info
"(guile) Keyword Procedures"), to avoid ending up with two procedures.
I’m fine either way.

> Do we need to add a documentation page as well?

Yes, please.  :-)  I realize I’m asking a lot of things, so let me know
if you’d like to share the workload somehow.

Doc could go in the “Processes” section, or possibly in a new section
we’d add right after it, “Spawning Programs”.  We should probably add a
“@quotation Note” in the doc of ‘primitive-fork’ that briefly explains
why people should probably use ‘spawn’ rather than fork + exec.

Some cosmetic suggestions follow…

Thanks,
Ludo’.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-12-25 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-27 21:25 bug#52835: [PATCH 0/2] Fix spawning a child not setting standard fds properly Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2021-12-27 21:35 ` bug#52835: [PATCH 1/2] Fix child spawning closing standard fds prematurely Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2021-12-27 21:35 ` bug#52835: [PATCH 2/2] Remove unused renumber_file_descriptor Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2021-12-27 21:49   ` bug#52835: [PATCH v2 " Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2021-12-28 15:40 ` bug#52835: [PATCH 0/2] Fix spawning a child not setting standard fds properly Timothy Sample
2021-12-28 17:25   ` Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-02-07 16:55     ` bug#52835: [PATCH v3] Fix child spawning closing standard fds prematurely Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-05-28 12:46       ` bug#52835: [PATCH v4 0/4] Improve safety of start_child and piped-process Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-05-28 12:46         ` bug#52835: [PATCH v4 1/4] Fix child spawning closing standard fds prematurely Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-05-28 12:46         ` bug#52835: [PATCH v4 2/4] Avoid double closes in piped-process Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-05-28 12:46         ` bug#52835: [PATCH v4 3/4] Remove useless closing code in start_child Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-05-28 12:46         ` bug#52835: [PATCH v4 4/4] Make start_child propagate the child errno to the parent Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-09-05  6:48         ` bug#52835: [PATCH v5 0/3] Move spawning procedures to posix_spawn Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-09-05  6:48           ` bug#52835: [PATCH v5 1/3] Update gnulib to 0.1.5414-8204d and add posix_spawn, posix_spawnp Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-09-05  6:48           ` bug#52835: [PATCH v5 2/3] Add spawn* Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-09-05  6:48           ` bug#52835: [PATCH v5 3/3] Move popen and posix procedures to spawn* Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-11-29 15:05             ` bug#52835: [PATCH 0/2] Fix spawning a child not setting standard fds properly Ludovic Courtès
2022-12-11 20:16               ` Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-12-12 23:49                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-12-22 12:49                   ` bug#52835: [PATCH v6 0/3] Move spawning procedures to posix_spawn Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-12-22 12:49                     ` bug#52835: [PATCH v6 1/3] Add spawn* Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-12-22 12:49                     ` bug#52835: [PATCH v6 2/3] Make system* and piped-process internally use spawn Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-12-22 12:49                     ` bug#52835: [PATCH v6 3/3] Move popen and posix procedures to spawn* Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-12-23 10:53                     ` bug#52835: [PATCH 0/2] Fix spawning a child not setting standard fds properly Ludovic Courtès
2022-12-23 17:15                       ` Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-12-23 17:17                         ` bug#52835: [PATCH v7 1/2] Add spawn* and spawn Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-12-23 17:17                           ` bug#52835: [PATCH v7 2/2] Make system* and piped-process internally use spawn Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2022-12-25 17:04                             ` bug#52835: [PATCH 0/2] Fix spawning a child not setting standard fds properly Ludovic Courtès
2022-12-25 17:03                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-12-25 16:58                         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2023-01-07 16:07                           ` Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2023-01-07 16:07                             ` bug#52835: [PATCH v8 1/2] Add spawn Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2023-01-07 16:07                               ` bug#52835: [PATCH v8 2/2] Make system* and piped-process internally use spawn Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2023-01-12 22:02                             ` bug#52835: [PATCH 0/2] Fix spawning a child not setting standard fds properly Ludovic Courtès
2023-01-13  1:11 ` Andrew Whatson via Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language
2023-01-13 15:20   ` Ludovic Courtès

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