From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Rottmann Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.bugs Subject: bug#20822: environment mangled by locale Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:03:48 +0200 Message-ID: <874mm7whcr.fsf@delenn.home.rotty.xx.vu> References: <20150616041736.GA2718@fysh.org> <20150616062631.GA700@jocasta.intra> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434485193 10889 80.91.229.3 (16 Jun 2015 20:06:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20822@debbugs.gnu.org, Zefram To: John Darrington Original-X-From: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 16 22:06:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-bugs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4x7g-0005yW-9s for guile-bugs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:06:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42613 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4x7a-00086O-B0 for guile-bugs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:06:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55418) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4x7W-00086J-JU for bug-guile@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:06:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4x7T-0005Jp-AY for bug-guile@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:06:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41846) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4x7T-0005Jl-6w for bug-guile@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:06:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4x7S-0004r1-SH for bug-guile@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:06:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andreas Rottmann Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guile@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20822 X-GNU-PR-Package: guile X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20822-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20822.143448515018639 (code B ref 20822); Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:06:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20822) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jun 2015 20:05:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56306 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4x7E-0004qV-Be for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:05:49 -0400 Original-Received: from yade.xx.vu ([78.47.92.94]:43822 ident=postfix) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4x5M-0004nL-Ah for 20822@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:03:57 -0400 Original-Received: from delenn.home.rotty.xx.vu (85-127-115-72.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at [85.127.115.72]) by yade.xx.vu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED7D7230DA4; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:03:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by delenn.home.rotty.xx.vu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 97B813258E5; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:03:48 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20150616062631.GA700@jocasta.intra> (John Darrington's message of "Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:26:32 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:05:46 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-guile@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.bugs:7796 Archived-At: John Darrington writes: > Can we configure this mailing list better? > > Many (all?) of the messages posted have no obvious indication of which > mailing list they are coming from. > > The subject line is something like "bug#12345: description" > The To: field is 12354@debbugs.gnu.org > > In general, it takes a lot of detective work to discover that message > relates to guile. > No, it doesn't, there's a List-Id header in all messages sent out via the list: List-Id: "Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language" You should use an email client (MUA) or mail delivery agent (MDA) which can act on that header, and group all (e.g.) bug-guile mails into their own folder (or view, or however your client calls that). Putting an identifier into the subject just clutters the view for people who have set up their email clients appropriatly for use with mailing list. >From the email headers of your post, it seems you use mutt; I don't know if mutt has built-in support for grouping based on List-Id (I'd guess no), but you can use a tool (MDA) like "maildrop"[1], "scmail"[2] or "procmail"[3]" to automatically put the email you receive via mailing lists into different (e.g.) IMAP mailboxes. [1] http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop/ [2] http://0xcc.net/scmail/index.html.en [3] http://www.procmail.org/ Personally, I use scmail, as I quite like its Scheme-based configuration file format; here's what I've done on a Debian system to set this up (I'm hopefully not forgetting something here): Create a .forward file containing the following single line in your $HOME, to process incoming mail with scmail: | /usr/bin/scmail-deliver Then, follow the instructions on the scmail homepage[1], creating ~/.scmail/config and ~/.scmail/deliver-rules to split your incoming mail into multiple mailboxes; I use the following rules for the Guile lists: (add-filter-rule! '(list-id (#/guile-devel\.gnu\.org/i "lists/guile-devel")) '(list-id (#/guile-user\.gnu\.org/i "lists/guile-user")) '(list-id (#/bug-guile\.gnu\.org/i "lists/guile-bug"))) The exact destinations you can use (e.g. "lists/guile-devel") depends on which program access your mail (IMAP server, local MUA). For a mutt instance running on the same system, my config looks like [4]. Note that this config is not polished at all; I use mutt on the server only as a fallback. [4] http://rotty.xx.vu/git/dotfiles/mutt/tree/.muttrc > Can it not be configured to Prepend the Subject: line with Bug-Guile > or something similar? That way it'd be easier to manage - either > manually or automatically. > As mentioned above, this is not a good idea. Kind regards, Rotty -- Andreas Rottmann --