From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Wingo Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.bugs Subject: bug#11215: [feature request] better backtraces Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 21:46:20 +0200 Message-ID: <8739578g37.fsf@pobox.com> References: <87r4vv18t8.fsf@googlemail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1341431242 19262 80.91.229.3 (4 Jul 2012 19:47:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 19:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11215@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ian Price Original-X-From: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 04 21:47:20 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-bugs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SmVXk-0003FC-EW for guile-bugs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2012 21:47:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33289 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SmVXj-0002NL-HC for guile-bugs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:47:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54535) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SmVXg-0002N3-JB for bug-guile@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:47:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SmVXe-0007JQ-P4 for bug-guile@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:47:16 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38927) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SmVXe-0007JM-Gx for bug-guile@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:47:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SmVcI-0004XF-Ch for bug-guile@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:52:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andy Wingo Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-guile@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 19:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11215 X-GNU-PR-Package: guile X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11215-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11215.134143147917384 (code B ref 11215); Wed, 04 Jul 2012 19:52:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11215) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2012 19:51:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48472 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SmVbb-0004WL-1k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:51:19 -0400 Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com ([74.115.168.62]:36671 helo=sasl.smtp.pobox.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SmVbY-0004WE-Tc for 11215@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:51:17 -0400 Original-Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0FFC9ED; Wed, 4 Jul 2012 15:46:28 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=Dx+Z15+T2R2bb5thgNVmRiniv4I=; b=ZzvaQi 4XwRu3YIsrg9deGMn2pZ6aWZY5+h+QrJJCULhQlzkKDurt9l9jkVqhBQrEEv8+gM jB+xHADsGvzYiggvEBnQPc2b0tQh33iP+CXc5GUKl5Pk+bNRDB0u6i/Rss9AI98n J87bvOqfX2B0Ub028qBvTXmN9DO5lRJpEXC1Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=xzU3vkaoB5EtZIzFIvcnAnsJqXfWab+y mk7+V5K3F+kTYBlKod3cmFLFGfmYJSbo9Ulgf9LuBCHCK50uF0Cxia1W1XvbNqDF xzFbCfI2HGIVFaRzjaUXW/t9gM2Eyc+aPnHrDY2fTwVo34sLR/ABaqmU2uqn1c7k Ud4o397k7gQ= Original-Received: from b-pb-sasl-sd. (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646C4C9EC; Wed, 4 Jul 2012 15:46:28 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from badger (unknown [89.131.176.233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by b-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CDCE1C9EB; Wed, 4 Jul 2012 15:46:27 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87r4vv18t8.fsf@googlemail.com> (Ian Price's message of "Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:11:31 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: F20333B8-C610-11E1-80ED-FA6787E41631-02397024!b-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-guile@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.bugs:6385 Archived-At: On Wed 11 Apr 2012 01:11, Ian Price writes: > Tail calls, we all love them, but sometimes they conflict with error > handling, and is often used as the scapegoat for why $language doesn't > support them. I agree, fwiw, and probably http://funcall.blogspot.com/2009/05/you-knew-id-say-something-part-iv.html is the answer. Andy -- http://wingolog.org/