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From: "Neil Jerram" <neiljerram@googlemail.com>
To: dsmich@roadrunner.com
Cc: bug-guile@gnu.org, Kannan Vijayan <INVALID.NOREPLY@gnu.org>,
	Kannan Vijayan <kannan.vij@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [bug #24554] Pthreads and Stack overflow in guile (reopen bug 20814?) (guile 1.8.5)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:48:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49dd78620810141448k447cc858v90b89f72a1056ceb@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2635792.1059581224003044911.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web28-z01>

2008/10/14  <dsmich@roadrunner.com>:
>
> I would imagine that --with-threads will not be turned back on until a 1.10.x (or 2.0.0 ?) release of Guile.
>
> My limited understanding of the situation (possibly incorrect):  Using --without-threads changes the sizes of some data structures (I'm guessing they are smaller, with some pthreads stuff #ifdef'ed out), so that code compiled for one way will segfault when linked with code compiled for the other way.
>
> As far as just releasing new packages --with-threads, It's just not possible to go back an recompile all the currently existing packages on already existing systems.

Really?  Isn't that what happens normally in "transitions"?  There are
only 28 packages depending (directly) on guile-1.8-libs.

Or is the issue about non-Debian applications that people have built
themselves?  Does Debian policy require a package's ABI always to stay
back-compatible?

(Another option would be creating new packages with --with-threads
support.  The current guile 1.8 packages are named guile-1.8 and
guile-1.8-libs, and it must be the case that everything currently in
Debian that depends on these does _not_ require support for multiple
threads.  It should be possible to create packages with new names,
e.g. guile-1.8-mt and guile-1.8-mt-libs, that were built
--with-threads, and these would initially have no packages depending
on them.

The problem with that, though, is that the existing and -mt packages
could not coexist, so a Debian user would have to choose between the
existing packages (+ the option of everything that depends on them)
and the -mt packages.)

Regards,
     Neil




  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-14 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-14 16:50 [bug #24554] Pthreads and Stack overflow in guile (reopen bug 20814?) (guile 1.8.5) dsmich
2008-10-14 21:48 ` Neil Jerram [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-15 18:43 dsmich
2008-10-14  1:39 Kannan Vijayan
2008-10-14  3:05 ` Kannan Vijayan
2008-10-14  8:53   ` Neil Jerram
2008-10-14 15:07   ` Kannan Vijayan
2008-11-30 18:42     ` Ludovic Courtès
2009-07-20 21:51       ` Ludovic Courtès

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