From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Alexandrov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#42644: 28.0.50; Please let max and min accept zero arguments Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2020 20:11:25 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87tuxmkhd9.fsf@web.de> <87d048wkf8.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36311"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 42644@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 03 19:12:39 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k2e0t-0009MM-HP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 19:12:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36560 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k2e0s-0006d2-7n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 13:12:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57776) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k2e0I-0006cZ-K0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 13:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34402) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k2e0I-0002bE-8F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 13:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k2e0I-0007Et-2H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 13:12:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Dmitry Alexandrov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2020 17:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 42644 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 42644-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B42644.159647470727807 (code B ref 42644); Mon, 03 Aug 2020 17:12:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 42644) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Aug 2020 17:11:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45948 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k2e03-0007EQ-0V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 13:11:47 -0400 Original-Received: from relay-2.mailobj.net ([213.182.54.5]:39165) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k2dzz-0007EC-Ag for 42644@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 13:11:45 -0400 Original-Received: from v-1c.localdomain (unknown [192.168.90.161]) by relay-2.mailobj.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E5861281; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 19:11:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by mail-1.net-c.com [213.182.54.15] with ESMTP Mon, 3 Aug 2020 19:11:36 +0200 (CEST) X-EA-Auth: LOWplNjW6lLi2BMaVsvtwcxKb3RToD29/3WGS/XI2yfLSb8HFFHg1Smwtof58iHOsr5z7HghZRM99e2hgtsj38NLO5yPjAW2 In-Reply-To: <87d048wkf8.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Mon, 03 Aug 2020 04:08:27 +0200") OpenPGP: id=525F7E60AD812C2361752BB4C8B0F8548EE7F3E7; url=https://openpgpkey.gnui.org/.well-known/openpgpkey/gnui.org/hu/hr4k5tkxm6shwdc18su4bkm34w3dctjd Mail-Copies-To: always X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:183952 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Dmitry Alexandrov writes: > >> What reader syntax would you prefer? > > I'm not criticizing the current syntax for the infinities. It's just har= d to remember them. ??? >> As for that regard, what=CA=BCs wrong with, (/ +1.0 0) and (/ -1.0 0)? > > Wow, that doesn't error? Thankfully, no. So third-parties do not have to invent another numbers, li= ke in some other languages: >>> 1 / 0.0 Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ZeroDivisionError: float division by zero >>> import numpy >>> 1 / numpy.float64(0.0) inf > It's hard to find a mathematical interpretation in which this makes any s= ense. Dunno. It makes perfect natural sense to me. Perhaps, mathematics is too = mind-warping. :-) Also, I=CA=BCd better emphasised zero, not numerator, with explicit flonum = notation. I hope, writing the same thing another way would help to realise= how obvious it is: (/ +1 0.0) ; =E2=87=92 1.0e+INF --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIMEARYIACsWIQRSX35grYEsI2F1K7TIsPhUjufz5wUCXyhFPQ0cZGFnQGdudWku b3JnAAoJEMiw+FSO5/PnebcA/i5rDDF2mi70xVOL0avYGOZu4aahI5aeSEUM16ix f4nXAQDUbTkrnd2nP4RvkejGpjIBPpRE+d8NxBspOvUJvclBAg== =LlNP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--