From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Unicode and text editors Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2024 14:02:17 +0000 Message-ID: References: <2427ab10a48abba2c811bcb01f4e74ce3832794f.camel@starynkevitch.net> Reply-To: Heime Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8564"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor To: Basile Starynkevitch Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 08 15:03:03 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tKHsE-00023Y-Oa for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 15:03:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tKHrf-0006Xn-1i; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 09:02:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tKHrd-0006XU-N1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 09:02:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-40132.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.132]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tKHrb-0000js-GH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 09:02:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1733666540; x=1733925740; bh=2b3Elh5QtGQkMI1zIZ7RhnzyQ1mGVNcqkKup0+2emQw=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector:List-Unsubscribe:List-Unsubscribe-Post; b=yX9IWM7mo3g61PFK24tZcmcGV3nbPK5dyrvM8bKGRNyZC7Wzf3uYcJoFAsHehM1jj nS/FDantvyLoxn/G0WJxg/zFRZR2haHcliErItssxRO54PWehadXg6iqcqq19QzIY3 zgz+d8zAUndfGoNvIQpyTzOfpE+7x0cRt+K/MgIASr8wYUFmnIvAqKo6lJMEAWLt5n /zdNjE0yBgWxxg+OFhK43ixWooDhudy6IrBzxbz8tQ2HQr6xn5deYlnoBI2OXTMV2n ahlesuiCtkM1BTrtKszermpntyHeKHAJkOpW6a2KMKU/WEK8B7EZ278TiW60/4liXc AzmsptimFDuXg== In-Reply-To: <2427ab10a48abba2c811bcb01f4e74ce3832794f.camel@starynkevitch.net> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 3b35c17c4625275e879521cb5edec7266cc6190b Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.132; envelope-from=heimeborgia@protonmail.com; helo=mail-40132.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:148680 Archived-At: Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Monday, December 9th, 2024 at 1:31 AM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: > On Sun, 2024-12-08 at 13:16 +0000, Heime via Users list for the GNU > Emacs text editor wrote: >=20 > > I am using unicode characters in emacs. What happens when people > > load the > > file in a different text editor? Will the characters be illegible? >=20 >=20 >=20 > I guess you mean Unicode characters with UTF-8 encoding.=20 Correct > I will refer > to the people mentioned in your question as colleagues (but they could > be friends or customers or students or authorities or managers). Your > computer means the computer you are using (probably under Linux) for > GNU emacs. Their computer or the other computer is the one used by the > collague. >=20 > I see several possible issues. >=20 > The other computer don't have the required font to display some > character (like a cyrillic letter, or =C2=A7 ....) >=20 > The other computer (or your colleague) don't know that the file is UTF- > 8 encoded. >=20 > The other computer don't have any editor. >=20 > the other computer has an editor which does not understand UTF-8 > encoding. >=20 > The other computer has an editor requiring UTF-16 encoding. Is this becoming the norm? What about emacs? =20 Does emacs encourage use of unicode characters (UTF-8) in code comments and documentation? =20 > The file has been corrupted during transmission. >=20 > Regards >=20 > NB my open source project is > https://github.com/RefPerSys/RefPerSys (GPLv3+ inference engine) >=20 > -- > Basile STARYNKEVITCH basile@starynkevitch.net >=20 > 8 rue de la Fa=C3=AFencerie > 92340 Bourg-la-Reine, France > http://starynkevitch.net/Basile & https://github.com/bstarynk