From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Efforts to attract more users? Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:28:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278631727 2097 80.91.229.12 (8 Jul 2010 23:28:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 23:28:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Emacs Dev \[emacs-devel\]" To: Ken Hori Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 09 01:28:46 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OX0W9-0002Tu-AX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 01:28:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60984 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OX0W7-0003n0-E9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:28:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58147 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OX0W3-0003mv-BF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:28:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OX0W2-0005za-58 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:28:27 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:39887) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OX0W1-0005zW-SJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:28:26 -0400 Original-Received: from dann by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OX0W1-0000Ee-91; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:28:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Ken Hori's message of "Wed\, 7 Jul 2010 22\:31\:22 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126926 Archived-At: Ken Hori writes: > I'm not sure if Emacs is attracting new users the way it used to be. > Certainly search volume has been going downhill for more than several years > (http://www.google.com/trends?q=emacs), and yet I don't hear this issue being > addressed here strongly enough. I hate to ask pedestrian sort of a question > like this, but are there any efforts specifically to attract more users? Emacs is very decentralized, things get done because a person starts something, and then other people might join. If you have ideas what to do, by all means, just go ahead! There are no direct efforts to attract users, more like efforts to keep up with the latest technologies (Gtk+, dbus, etc), improve usability, etc. It would be nice if we could attract more developers, more developers, means more interesting things done to attract users. There are many people developing various elisp packages, but they are mostly designed as add-ons, not with integration into emacs in mind. It would help a lot if we could convince more people to develop that way. org-mode is a great example of development, the rate that it's adding features, and how it integrates with just about anything is astonishing. We could use more of that...