From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6028: 24.0.50; HELLO wants "C-x v v" Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:05:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83eii510po.fsf@gnu.org> <834oj01t4c.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1272165943 23292 80.91.229.12 (25 Apr 2010 03:25:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 03:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6028@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 25 05:25:42 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O5sTS-0003Ow-9X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 05:25:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35851 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O5sTQ-0003kz-Lq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:25:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O5sTM-0003km-9w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:25:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54860 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O5sTK-0003kZ-7G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:25:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O5sTJ-0007K6-Al for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:25:30 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:57635) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O5sTJ-0007K1-8e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:25:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O5sAT-0006e3-OY; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:06:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Dan Nicolaescu Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 03:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6028 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6028-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6028.127216472125534 (code B ref 6028); Sun, 25 Apr 2010 03:06:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6028) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Apr 2010 03:05:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O5s9o-0006dn-Je for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:05:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O5s9m-0006di-Mp for 6028@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:05:19 -0400 Original-Received: from dann by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O5s9l-0007IW-Nd; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:05:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <834oj01t4c.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat\, 24 Apr 2010 23\:40\:51 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:06:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:36484 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Cc: 6028@debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Dan Nicolaescu >> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 15:32:58 -0400 >> >> If this is in an uninstalled tree, then C-h H opens the HELLO file that is managed by bzr. > > Yes. > >> The message that you see is what VC says when you try to make writable a file managed by VC. >> Is that the issue here? > > The issue here is that the message is bogus. The VCS that is used > does not require "C-x v v" to make the file writable, because the file > is already writable under bzr. The _buffer_ is made read-only by > "C-h H", but the file is not. Perhaps VC sees that the file is under > VCS control and the buffer is read-only, and erroneously deduces that > the VC backend is some VCS of the locking variety. But that is false. > > I think VC should not display this message if the backend is not a > locking VCS. FWIW I agree. I think this was discussed on the list a few times, but I don't remember the conclusion.... But please retitle this bug to be more descriptive of the actual problem.