From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AUCTeX inclusion [Re: elpa.gnu.org repository sync with Emacs] Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:25:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87mxpabjj3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <8762vyz5rl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <8739r2z1w8.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87y68t8jif.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87r5eljosw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87aal95el4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d3q42dxc.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1290054369 19201 80.91.229.12 (18 Nov 2010 04:26:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 18 05:26:03 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PIw4Q-0002Og-M8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:26:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60352 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PIw4P-0004T9-RE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:26:01 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56650 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PIw4J-0004Sh-0I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:25:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PIw4E-0006n0-5f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:25:54 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:55602) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PIw4E-0006mv-1Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:25:50 -0500 Original-Received: from dann by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PIw4B-0005bQ-Nh; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:25:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87d3q42dxc.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Wed\, 17 Nov 2010 09\:00\:15 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132809 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 03:01:09 -0500 Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > > DN> Ted Zlatanov writes: >>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:00:10 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: >>> > LMI> So... ELPA would be for packages that we want to have readily available > LMI> in Emacs, but that we can't ever easily cut any cruft out of as Emacs > LMI> progresses? But since the FSF-copyright assignment regime would still > LMI> apply to ELPA, we'd wouldn't be able to accept big packages like auctex > LMI> anyway? >>> >>> You know, AUCTeX is in there... http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/ >>> >>> Chong Yidong and the AUCTeX maintainers spent a lot of time getting the >>> copyrights done and putting the tarball together. > > DN> Is the any reason not to include AUCTeX in emacs proper instead of elpa? > > We just went over this several times, didn't we? Sorry, I must have missed that discussion. Can you please point me to it? > DN> It's a very useful package to have working by default without having > DN> to deal with setting up packages. > > You say that like it's a hard task. > > M-x package-list-packages > `i' on whatever you want to install, then `x' That's a lot more complicated than have things just work by default. AUCTeX is better than the currently integrated latex mode, so it's better to just integrated it in emacs instead of having people fiddle with installing packages.