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From: Mohsen BANAN <list-general@mohsen.1.banan.byname.net>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-bidi@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bidirectional editing in Emacs -- main design decisions
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 10:31:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yx2vcy2xmnm.fsf@mohsen.1.banan.byname.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 83y636grgj.fsf@gnu.org


First let me preface that I am new to this list
(through gmane) and that I am not on top of the
subject matter at hand.

If I am understaning it right, I think your new
decision is right also from a different
perspective.

In that it then becomes consistent with how bidi
works in mozilla/firefox.

Being consistent with the browser is important in
practice. Let me cite an example.

I have been using build GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 for a
while to exchange email (Gnus) in Farsi and mixed
Farsi/Latin with family and friends in Iran who
use browser based MUAs.

My mixed language text generated with emacs
displays inconsistently in firefox vs emacs24.

For example when I write:

اسم کوچک من محسن Mohsen و اسم خانوادگى من بنان
Banan است.


My first name is Mohsen محسن and my last name is
Banan بنان.

And I think the design decision that you mentioned
will make them consistent.

Thanks for the good work.

Best,

...Mohsen

...محسن



>>>>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:02:04 +0300, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> said:

  >> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
  >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org,  emacs-bidi@gnu.org
  >> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 10:11:33 -0300
  >> 
  >> It sounds very reasonable, but at the same time I don't understand in
  >> which way it differs from your earlier opinion that it should "stop
  >> reordering" (whose meaning is very unclear to me).

  Eli> Well, that's my fault: "stop reordering" is simply misleading.

  Eli> What I meant by that was that the reordering will completely process
  Eli> all the text before (in the logical order) the part covered by a
  Eli> display property, then process the display spec, and only then reorder
  Eli> the text after the property.

  Eli> So this buffer text

  Eli>   ABCDE display XYZ

  Eli> will be reordered as

  Eli>   EDCBA display ZYX

  Eli> instead of more sensible

  Eli>   ZYX display EDCBA

  Eli> under the new plan.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-25 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-09 21:18 Bidirectional editing in Emacs -- main design decisions Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-09 21:55 ` joakim
2009-10-09 22:29   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-09 22:42     ` joakim
2009-10-10  7:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-10  7:28         ` joakim
2009-10-10  8:20           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-09 22:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-10  9:16   ` Richard Stallman
2009-10-10 11:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-11  8:41       ` Richard Stallman
2009-10-11 20:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-11 21:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-12 10:11           ` Richard Stallman
2009-10-12 18:40             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-10 13:44 ` Sascha Wilde
2009-10-10 14:06   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-10 15:54     ` Sascha Wilde
2009-10-10 14:57 ` Ehud Karni
2009-10-10 16:38   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-10 15:13 ` Jason Rumney
2009-10-10 16:06   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-10 16:29     ` Jason Rumney
2009-10-10 17:18 ` James Cloos
2009-10-10 18:33   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-18 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-19 13:11   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-19 16:02     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-20  3:15       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 17:31       ` Mohsen BANAN [this message]
2011-04-25 17:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-25 18:44           ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-04-25 18:59             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-25 21:31               ` Now: Paragraph Direction Detection and Harmonization -- Was: " Mohsen BANAN
2011-04-25 22:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-26  7:56                   ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-04-26 18:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-27 21:58                       ` Now: Paragraph Direction Detection and Harmonization Mohsen BANAN
2011-04-26 18:24                   ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-04-26 19:23                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-26  1:22                 ` Now: Paragraph Direction Detection and Harmonization -- Was: Re: Bidirectional editing in Emacs -- main design decisions Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-28  0:52           ` Requesting instructions for enabling bidi by default Mohsen BANAN
2011-04-28  1:21             ` Juanma Barranquero

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